Bosh to Bobcats for #4 pick? (per Gary Washburn)

[PhoSita]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

[hpantazo]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

It does make sense when there are no star players in the draft, especially not after the first 2 picks. There are reasons why the top 3 picks in this draft are all on the block.

[Eddie20]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change? Jordan is under pressure to show some improvement instead of sucking yearly. Plus, the addition of Bosh could take some pressure off of their younger players and help them ease into their roles.

[PhoSita]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

It does make sense when there are no star players in the draft, especially not after the first 2 picks. There are reasons why the top 3 picks in this draft are all on the block.

Yeah, except the draft NEXT year is stacked.

Rich Cho came to the Bobcats to implement that Thunder plan -- tank for stars.

He's not going to abandon that plan so he can get a 28 year old Chris Bosh who's only going to ensure his team wins between 30 and 45 games the next few years.

[PhoSita]

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change?

No, but if they get a top pick next season it could.

Trading for Bosh just ensures that the Bobcats will have a harder time getting to be anything more than a mediocre team.  They might as well have never tanked in the first place.

[hpantazo]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change? Jordan is under pressure to show some improvement instead of sucking yearly. Plus, the addition of Bosh could take some pressure off of their younger players and help them ease into their roles.

Exactly, the 4th pick in a weak draft isn't going to improve their franchise. Bosh will.

[hpantazo]

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change?

No, but if they get a top pick next season it could.

oh, don't worry, they are still in the lottery next year with or without Bosh

[PhoSita]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change? Jordan is under pressure to show some improvement instead of sucking yearly. Plus, the addition of Bosh could take some pressure off of their younger players and help them ease into their roles.

Exactly, the 4th pick in a weak draft isn't going to improve their franchise. Bosh will.

Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, Marcus Smart etc.

All better for the Bobcats than Bosh.

[PhoSita]

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change?

No, but if they get a top pick next season it could.

oh, don't worry, they are still in the lottery next year with or without Bosh

With Bosh they'll be picking 10-15 instead of top 5.

[hpantazo]

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change?

No, but if they get a top pick next season it could.

oh, don't worry, they are still in the lottery next year with or without Bosh

With Bosh they'll be picking 10-15 instead of top 5.

that's what the lottery is for, you can never predict their draft position

[PhoSita]

The point, guys, is that trading for Bosh now would mean the Bobcats are essentially admitting that their entire franchise-building plan from the last 3 seasons was a total mistake.

The current management of the team might as well fire themselves.

[PhoSita]

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change?

No, but if they get a top pick next season it could.

oh, don't worry, they are still in the lottery next year with or without Bosh

With Bosh they'll be picking 10-15 instead of top 5.

that's what the lottery is for, you can never predict their draft position

Right, so the 'cats are going to hope that they'll move up from 10-12 into the top 3?  They'd have to be borderline braindead to think that's a smart move.

[hpantazo]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change? Jordan is under pressure to show some improvement instead of sucking yearly. Plus, the addition of Bosh could take some pressure off of their younger players and help them ease into their roles.

Exactly, the 4th pick in a weak draft isn't going to improve their franchise. Bosh will.

Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, Marcus Smart etc.

All better for the Bobcats than Bosh.

those guys are all in next year's draft, no one said anything about trading next years pick

[PhoSita]

Even if they got reallly lucky and still ended up with a top 5 pick next year, they'd be another few seasons away from being competitive with that group.

By that time, Bosh is in his early 30s. 

Any way you cut it, even a weak #4 pick makes more sense for the Bobcats than Bosh because that player will still be contributing for them 5-6 years from now.

In any case, you really think Bosh is going to put forth any kind of effort on the Bobcats after playing in Miami the last couple of years?  Much more likely he pulls a Ben Gordon.

[PhoSita]

Makes no sense.  There's plenty of evidence that Bosh is not a franchise player.  He had a hard time even getting the Raptors into the playoffs.

For the Bobcats it makes perfect sense. Bosh is much, much better than anyone they could get with the 4th pick. Franchise player or not, he would be automatically their best player, and still young. Pair him with Biyombo, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Kemba Walker, and you already have a better team than the Raptors did with Bosh.

Meh, I don't think that's necessarily true.

Jury is still out on Walker or MKG being anything but role players.

Bosh is still "young" but he's just a couple years away from hitting 30.  It makes no sense for a team that's at least 3-4 years away from having a truly competitive young core trading a top 5 pick for a big man who is really a complementary star at best.

That's just it. The Bobcats are on pace to be equally as bad next season with no end in sight. And with the draftee will that really change? Jordan is under pressure to show some improvement instead of sucking yearly. Plus, the addition of Bosh could take some pressure off of their younger players and help them ease into their roles.

Exactly, the 4th pick in a weak draft isn't going to improve their franchise. Bosh will.

Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, Marcus Smart etc.

All better for the Bobcats than Bosh.

those guys are all in next year's draft, no one said anything about trading next years pick

Trading for Bosh now would be like trading next year's top 5 pick for a late lottery pick next year, just so they can have Bosh for a few seasons.

That would be desperate, short-sighted management.  Makes no sense at all and doesn't accord with their long term plan.