First welcome, I see this is your first post.

Second, assume PP accepts this, then what?

Run-it-again & hope for health with theoretically 6 mil in cap space...use available salary to fill in gaps. I liked the concept of another post: 1 draft, 1 trade & 1 free agent.

taking 6 mill off PP's contract won't get you any cap space.  They're still over the cap even with that reduction

I don't think this is possible.  It is not an option with Pierce.  In order for him to not be making $15 million next year, the C's have to cut him.  And if they cut him, they lose Bird rights on him. 

Of course what they could do is cut him, which gives him $5 million, and then sign him for a two year, MLE deal.  That would basically make it 2 years/$15 million.

But why would Pierce do that?  It won't give them any more cap space to make them a contender.  And it would take away their one way of adding another piece...while costing Pierce money.

I feel pretty confident that if Pierce is not making $15 million next year, he will be in a different uniform.

edit: what Roy said.

This a tramendous stupidty made by DA years ago, giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/yeasr. CS need actually a new GM rajter than trading or not PP

Why?  By doing that contract, he saved his owners a ton of luxury tax dollars (remember, Pierce took a decent paycut by opting out of that final year in order to sign the extension), he was able to extend the value of an asset, which otherwise would have been lost completely.

More importantly, Pierce was paid pretty much market value, if not below market value, given his production the last couple of years. 

Quote from: Chris on June 10, 2013, 10:05:36 AM

Quote from: eugen on June 10, 2013, 10:02:36 AM

This a tramendous stupidty made by DA years ago, giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/yeasr. CS need actually a new GM rajter than trading or not PP

Why?  By doing that contract, he saved his owners a ton of luxury tax dollars (remember, Pierce took a decent paycut by opting out of that final year in order to sign the extension), he was able to extend the value of an asset, which otherwise would have been lost completely.

More importantly, Pierce was paid pretty much market value, if not below market value, given his production the last couple of years.

Giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/year is not only a big money managment mistake but in general, is a bad managment of budget having the bad influence for the future of the team. This is a afact now and there is no reason to hide te truth

You are just repeating yourself, but not explaining your point.

In what way did Pierce's contract hurt the C's, compared to letting him walk? 

Quote from: eugen on June 10, 2013, 10:51:07 AM

Quote from: Chris on June 10, 2013, 10:05:36 AM

Quote from: eugen on June 10, 2013, 10:02:36 AM

This a tramendous stupidty made by DA years ago, giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/yeasr. CS need actually a new GM rajter than trading or not PP

Why?  By doing that contract, he saved his owners a ton of luxury tax dollars (remember, Pierce took a decent paycut by opting out of that final year in order to sign the extension), he was able to extend the value of an asset, which otherwise would have been lost completely.

More importantly, Pierce was paid pretty much market value, if not below market value, given his production the last couple of years.

Giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/year is not only a big money managment mistake but in general, is a bad managment of budget having the bad influence for the future of the team. This is a afact now and there is no reason to hide te truth

You are just repeating yourself, but not explaining your point.

In what way did Pierce's contract hurt the C's, compared to letting him walk?

Why you trying to tell me that you are not understaning my point?! How a GM can pay 15 mill/year for a old player at age of 35??? This ia a max contract for Cs team...Lebron is getting 15.5 year...So, this a very very bad money managment. With 15 mill, you can pay 2 very good players under 30 years old. So if PP is so connected to Cs shirt, let him get less money and try to be happy with less money such normal people living happy with 25,000 /year

Quote from: Chris on June 10, 2013, 10:58:19 AM

Quote from: eugen on June 10, 2013, 10:51:07 AM

Quote from: Chris on June 10, 2013, 10:05:36 AM

Quote from: eugen on June 10, 2013, 10:02:36 AM

This a tramendous stupidty made by DA years ago, giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/yeasr. CS need actually a new GM rajter than trading or not PP

Why?  By doing that contract, he saved his owners a ton of luxury tax dollars (remember, Pierce took a decent paycut by opting out of that final year in order to sign the extension), he was able to extend the value of an asset, which otherwise would have been lost completely.

More importantly, Pierce was paid pretty much market value, if not below market value, given his production the last couple of years.

Giving a 35 years old player, max contract of 15mill/year is not only a big money managment mistake but in general, is a bad managment of budget having the bad influence for the future of the team. This is a afact now and there is no reason to hide te truth

You are just repeating yourself, but not explaining your point.

In what way did Pierce's contract hurt the C's, compared to letting him walk?

Why you trying to tell me that you are not understaning my point?! How a GM can pay 15 mill/year for a old player at age of 35??? This ia a max contract for Cs team...Lebron is getting 15.5 year...So, this a very very bad money managment. With 15 mill, you can pay 2 very good players under 30 years old. So if PP is so connected to Cs shirt, let him get less money and try to be happy with less money such normal people living happy with 25,000 /year

The 15 mill this year was a "Thank you" for taking less money the first couple years of it, so they could resign other players. The option comes in so they don't have to pay him all of it if the team goes in the hole. Kinda a safety measure. A lot of contracts are done this way. KG's was 20 mill on his last year, and at the age of 35, that was part of Mini's deal. Isn't Lins last year up around 10 Mill, for a guy who had 2 good months of basketball?

Also cutting PP or redoing his contract wont do anything but save the owners money. You can't sign a different guy out side the MLE. Even if you cut PP you don't get an extra 10 mill to play with.

So the options are, keep PP see where it goes. Cut PP and trade KG, have Rondo and Sully sit half season and tank. Or trade PP for X player or trade for players to us as trade chips in an other trade later on.