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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2013, 01:07:37 PM »

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Unless Hoopshype is incorrect, it is a team option.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/minnesota.htm

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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2013, 01:42:12 PM »

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Shamsports lists it as an unguaranteed second year.  Media reports list it as an unguaranteed second year.

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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2013, 02:07:38 PM »

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Perfect backup center right now on any team, IMO.  I'd give our pick for him straight up, and throw in the Chinese guys, too if needed.  Are we going to get someone better than Steamer in the draft?

Does he remind anyone else of a healthy and tuned-in Chris Mihm?
I can't imagine a tuned in Chris Mihm, so no he doesn't remind me of that actually

Ha, good one.

I guess I meant a healthy Mihm.
A healthy and tuned in Chris Mihm was a great offensive player who could rebound but suffered from having slow feet defensively.

Stiemsma is pretty much exactly the polar opposite: good feet defensively, can't really rebound well, no inside offensive skills to speak of.
I don't recall very much offensive greatness.

Re: Steamer??
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2013, 02:09:46 PM »

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Considering the strength of this draft I'd also happily give up our 1st sounder and 3 million in our non guaranteed contracts to bring back Stiemsma. Alternatively a straight swap for Jordan Crawford?

I wonder whether people are remembering Steamer's flaws in addition to his upside. He was fine for us in limited minutes during the regular season, but barely played in the playoffs, and is as far as I know still a real liability against smaller teams like Miami. He's still pretty foul-prone, so counting on him for real minutes particularly when Garnett needs so much rest seems like a big risk.

Seems to be a trend with Doc. Play your big men in the regular season and then go small in the playoffs.
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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2013, 02:24:47 PM »

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Considering the strength of this draft I'd also happily give up our 1st sounder and 3 million in our non guaranteed contracts to bring back Stiemsma. Alternatively a straight swap for Jordan Crawford?

I wonder whether people are remembering Steamer's flaws in addition to his upside. He was fine for us in limited minutes during the regular season, but barely played in the playoffs, and is as far as I know still a real liability against smaller teams like Miami. He's still pretty foul-prone, so counting on him for real minutes particularly when Garnett needs so much rest seems like a big risk.

Seems to be a trend with Doc. Play your big men in the regular season and then go small in the playoffs.

And if you want to win games you'd like to play your best players as often as you can.

Interesting correlation, that.
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2013, 02:54:30 PM »

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Perfect backup center right now on any team, IMO.  I'd give our pick for him straight up, and throw in the Chinese guys, too if needed.  Are we going to get someone better than Steamer in the draft?

Does he remind anyone else of a healthy and tuned-in Chris Mihm?
I can't imagine a tuned in Chris Mihm, so no he doesn't remind me of that actually

Ha, good one.

I guess I meant a healthy Mihm.
A healthy and tuned in Chris Mihm was a great offensive player who could rebound but suffered from having slow feet defensively.

Stiemsma is pretty much exactly the polar opposite: good feet defensively, can't really rebound well, no inside offensive skills to speak of.
I don't recall very much offensive greatness.
Great may be an overstatement, but he certainly had some legitimate inside moves. Stiemsma, on the other hand... not so much.

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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2013, 06:38:36 AM »

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Considering the strength of this draft I'd also happily give up our 1st sounder and 3 million in our non guaranteed contracts to bring back Stiemsma. Alternatively a straight swap for Jordan Crawford?

I wonder whether people are remembering Steamer's flaws in addition to his upside. He was fine for us in limited minutes during the regular season, but barely played in the playoffs, and is as far as I know still a real liability against smaller teams like Miami. He's still pretty foul-prone, so counting on him for real minutes particularly when Garnett needs so much rest seems like a big risk.

Seems to be a trend with Doc. Play your big men in the regular season and then go small in the playoffs.

And if you want to win games you'd like to play your best players as often as you can.

Interesting correlation, that.

How did that work out?
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2013, 06:51:50 AM »

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like greg, good shot blocker nice outside shot

what are we paying shav?

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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2013, 07:15:14 AM »

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what are we paying shav?

Peanuts

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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2013, 07:28:54 AM »

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Considering the strength of this draft I'd also happily give up our 1st sounder and 3 million in our non guaranteed contracts to bring back Stiemsma. Alternatively a straight swap for Jordan Crawford?

I wonder whether people are remembering Steamer's flaws in addition to his upside. He was fine for us in limited minutes during the regular season, but barely played in the playoffs, and is as far as I know still a real liability against smaller teams like Miami. He's still pretty foul-prone, so counting on him for real minutes particularly when Garnett needs so much rest seems like a big risk.

Seems to be a trend with Doc. Play your big men in the regular season and then go small in the playoffs.

And if you want to win games you'd like to play your best players as often as you can.

Interesting correlation, that.

How did that work out?

About as well as can be expected when our star point guard is the one who tears his ACL in the playoffs, instead one who plays for a different team.
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Re: Steamer??
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2013, 09:47:52 AM »

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The main reason, Steamer didn't play in the playoffs was that he could barely walk at that time.

He is not worth a first round pick though. This draft might be weak in the top, but there are plenty quality players.