If the Schroeder promise is true, are we probably trading Rondo? (To the Jazz)

[ghost_of_davidthirdkill]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

[Sketch5]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

Yeah that makes more sense, have Shroeder back up Evans for a year or two then asses who's playing the best and then figure out what direction you want to go. Then you have Cousins with KG and hopefully KG can teach Cousins how to get his frustrations out with in the game and not at the refs.

Evans/Shroeder/Williams
Bradley/Lee/Terry/Crawford
Green/PP/
KG/Bass/Sully
Cousins/Randolph/Melo

You still have room to move Lee/Bass/Crawford/Melo and depending on who your getting maybe even Bradley and Williams for what you need in either a really good SG or SF or good back up center. Might be able to get Peach's for the MLE to take care of the SF spot.
 

[fantankerous]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

It would certainly make more sense for us.  Unfortunately, Sacramento won't feel the same.

[chambers]

I think it just means that the Celtics will flip Shroeder to the Jazz. Plus, Jazz are sticking with Kanter. They'd probably want a young PG to develop along with all their other young talent..

You might be right, but is Schroeder ready to be the PG on this team of young, experienced players as they make a push to be a playoff contender? If not is Alek Burks? I don't think so. It's a position of need for them. We shall see.

Why wouldnt they just pick him with the 14th though? Do the Jazz have two players they like coming out of this draft?

That's what I'm thinking as well. There's no reason to trade for him if you're Utah, because you can just draft him at 14, unless there's another prospect you want enough to justify trading for the 16th.

The reason they swap him is because he's a 19 year old rookie and they get an All star in return.
The point is that Scroeder is being essentially swapped along with Kanter and some other assets for Rondo.
It ours them in a win now situation and they get the point guard they need for the playoffs.
Why wouldn't they just pick Schroeder? Because he's 19 and not ready to lead into the playoffs.

[dasani]

have the C's even worked out Schroeder? I don't remember him being on the workout list when they brought in those PGs. I think this is only linked because of the Rondo comparisons (which are quite off, because they really don't have the same game at all, just physicality is similar).  Doubt Utah lets go off Kanter, especially since Millsap and Jefferson are FA and might get offers to high for them to match. I doubt there is much to this promise thing. Agents make these things up to hype up their clients.

[ghost_of_davidthirdkill]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

It would certainly make more sense for us.  Unfortunately, Sacramento won't feel the same.

Actually, I think Sacramento would jump at that offer.  Are they going to get a better offer than Rondo for a disgruntled Cousins?  I don't think so. 

[dasani]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

It would certainly make more sense for us.  Unfortunately, Sacramento won't feel the same.

Actually, I think Sacramento would jump at that offer.  Are they going to get a better offer than Rondo for a disgruntled Cousins?  I don't think so.

because Rondo would be even more disgruntled. would he even suit up for the Kings or would he leave them high and dry like Bynum did the Sixers? This would be a major concern.

[lightspeed5]

Enes Kanter is not the answer to a championship.

[BballTim]

Enes Kanter is not the answer to a championship.

  Neither is Cousins for that matter.

[bfrombleacher]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

It would certainly make more sense for us.  Unfortunately, Sacramento won't feel the same.

Actually, I think Sacramento would jump at that offer.  Are they going to get a better offer than Rondo for a disgruntled Cousins?  I don't think so.

because Rondo would be even more disgruntled. would he even suit up for the Kings or would he leave them high and dry like Bynum did the Sixers? This would be a major concern.

Rondo is stubborn but he's not the headcase, bad team player, team cancer, bad leader, idiot... many think he is and ESPN portrays him to be.

He'd be throwing away his next payday if he doesn't suit up for the Kings.

[dasani]

If the Shroeder promise is in fact true, wouldn't it make more sense to trade Rondo to Sacramento for Cousins rather than to Utah for either Jefferson or Millsap?  I'd much rather have Cousins than those two.

Maybe a Rondo & Melo for Cousins and Evans would be much better than either Jefferson or Millsap for Rondo.

It would certainly make more sense for us.  Unfortunately, Sacramento won't feel the same.

Actually, I think Sacramento would jump at that offer.  Are they going to get a better offer than Rondo for a disgruntled Cousins?  I don't think so.

because Rondo would be even more disgruntled. would he even suit up for the Kings or would he leave them high and dry like Bynum did the Sixers? This would be a major concern.

Rondo is stubborn but he's not the headcase, bad team player, team cancer, bad leader, idiot... many think he is and ESPN portrays him to be.

He'd be throwing away his next payday if he doesn't suit up for the Kings.

you think he would be happy being traded to Kings? I doubt it. He hates losing and that team loses a lot, and without Cousins, who does he pass to? (which is also a reason why Kings may not go for this, Rondo needs scorers around him to be truly effective and they have none outside of Cousins and Reke who will be gone in this proposed trade).

[nickagneta]

If we promised a PG that's very much like Rondo to draft him it makes more sense to keep him playing behind Rondo for a year or two to make sure he is a player before trading away Rondo.

I have been one that has advocated for Michael Carter-Williams being drafted if he is there but even then I want him playing with Rondo, not in place of Rondo, at least not until its time for KG and Pierce to go, which I believe will not be next year.

[j804]

If we promised a PG that's very much like Rondo to draft him it makes more sense to keep him playing behind Rondo for a year or two to make sure he is a player before trading away Rondo.

I have been one that has advocated for Michael Carter-Williams being drafted if he is there but even then I want him playing with Rondo, not in place of Rondo, at least not until its time for KG and Pierce to go, which I believe will not be next year.

You see KG and Paul playing another 2 years here? I guess maybe KG because he's so loyal but then again if its a full rebuild which if not this upcoming year it'll probably be the next, see them going elsewhere for their final year and ride off into retirement from there. I just hope Paul is back the thought disgusts me at trading him away for a pick or some mediocre big who isnt going to make or break hs anywah, if he wants to stay let him play out his final year here.

[chambers]

Enes Kanter is not the answer to a championship.

  Neither is Cousins for that matter.

Pretty early in their careers to define them like that.  It may not seem like much but are Rondo, Jeff Green, Avery Bradley or sully putting us any closer?

This is in a rebuild scenario as stateD in the OP.
IF pierce and KG are gone do we waste our capspace on mediocre non all star free agents to bow out of the second round for the next 5 years? Or do we go for broke rebuild?
If Danny decided that Wiggins or Parker is the answer then moving Rondo for a package like this is probably what's happening. Avery Bradley is worth a late second rounder, Rondo is worth a top 5 to 10 pick...
I don't know what people expect for Rondo in a rebuilding situation.

[nickagneta]

If we promised a PG that's very much like Rondo to draft him it makes more sense to keep him playing behind Rondo for a year or two to make sure he is a player before trading away Rondo.

I have been one that has advocated for Michael Carter-Williams being drafted if he is there but even then I want him playing with Rondo, not in place of Rondo, at least not until its time for KG and Pierce to go, which I believe will not be next year.

You see KG and Paul playing another 2 years here? I guess maybe KG because he's so loyal but then again if its a full rebuild which if not this upcoming year it'll probably be the next, see them going elsewhere for their final year and ride off into retirement from there. I just hope Paul is back the thought disgusts me at trading him away for a pick or some mediocre big who isnt going to make or break hs anywah, if he wants to stay let him play out his final year here.

I only see KG and Pierce back next year. If the team stinks, I see Danny blowing it up come the trade deadline. If the C's are good, the team will be blown up after the season.

Either way, they will need Rondo next year. Rondo's value will be better next year when he is healthy and proven he is and not trading Rondo will give this team the starting and back up PGs it has needed since basically the Rondo/Eddie House combo. Let the kid learn a year under Rondo at the minimum. If the blow up comes after next year, at least Doc and Danny will know if they have a future PG that can be what they need and trade Rondo or whether they don't and decide to keep Rondo and further develop Carter-Williams or Schroeder