Mavs looking to sell off pick to create cap room

[Moranis]

How about

#13, Vince Carter (3.18 m), Jared Cunningham (1.208 m)

for

2013 2nd, Williams (947k), Randolph (1.1 m), White (1 m)

(I think my math is correct but if not just take Cunningham out of the trade)


Saves the Mavs a bunch of cap room by getting them a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts and a non-guaranteed 2nd rounder for contracts next year and a pick (all of which take up cap room).  I'd probably be willing to throw in a heavily protected future 1st if required.

[hpantazo]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

[Rondo2287]

How about

#13, Vince Carter (3.18 m), Jared Cunningham (1.208 m)

for

2013 2nd, Williams (947k), Randolph (1.1 m), White (1 m)

(I think my math is correct but if not just take Cunningham out of the trade)


Saves the Mavs a bunch of cap room by getting them a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts and a non-guaranteed 2nd rounder for contracts next year and a pick (all of which take up cap room).  I'd probably be willing to throw in a heavily protected future 1st if required.

Im down if they would do it

[wdleehi]

Do the Celtics actually want to trade into this draft?  Everyone seems to want out.

[Rondo2287]

Do the Celtics actually want to trade into this draft?  Everyone seems to want out.

Id say why not?  There arent franchise makers but there are sure to be some good pieces.

[BleedGreen1989]

Yea I think Dallas asks for more but for the Celtics it's almost a no-brainer. They get a late lotto pick and a guard they coveted last year in Cunningham plus they could probably flip Vince to a contender for a future pick.

[Moranis]

Do the Celtics actually want to trade into this draft?  Everyone seems to want out.

If you aren't giving anything of value up, I don't see why not.  I mean isn't the proposed trade where you get Vince Carter, Jared Cunningham, and say with the pick you get Shabazz (and with our own we get Adams) for non-guaranteed contracts of deep bench players a no brainer.  Seems pretty clear.

[Moranis]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

Possibly, but Dallas doesn't need more savings than just Vince, Cunningham, and the pick to get enough room for two max, so I don't see why they would want to give Marion up (who would be a great compliment to Paul, Dirk, and Howard).

[Mr Green]

How about

#13, Vince Carter (3.18 m), Jared Cunningham (1.208 m)

for

2013 2nd, Williams (947k), Randolph (1.1 m), White (1 m)

(I think my math is correct but if not just take Cunningham out of the trade)


Saves the Mavs a bunch of cap room by getting them a bunch of non-guaranteed contracts and a non-guaranteed 2nd rounder for contracts next year and a pick (all of which take up cap room).  I'd probably be willing to throw in a heavily protected future 1st if required.

I thought Portland has our second round pick this year? Otherwise it looks pretty good to me.

Edit: www.nba.com/news/2013-nba-draft-order/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt13a

[pearljammer10]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

Yeah I could see that especially if they could land Paul or Howard.

Pierce to Dallas for Marion and Carter?

Marion and Carter are both expirings totally about 12 mil for next year. Does make us younger but gives us the cap space the following year. Although if we are just trading for two olds vets, I would think we could rather just buy out Pierce's contract, let him walk, and save that way.

[Evantime34]

Why wouldn't they just pick a foriegn player that won't come over next year? That would not cost against the cap correct?

[Evantime34]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

Yeah I could see that especially if they could land Paul or Howard.

Pierce to Dallas for Marion and Carter?

Marion and Carter are both expirings totally about 12 mil for next year. Does make us younger but gives us the cap space the following year. Although if we are just trading for two olds vets, I would think we could rather just buy out Pierce's contract, let him walk, and save that way.

I'm not sure they would trade Carter, his contract is partially guaranteed so it could be a source of cap savings on its own.

[hpantazo]

Why wouldn't they just pick a foriegn player that won't come over next year? That would not cost against the cap correct?

because they need to cut a lot more salary than just whatever they would pay the 1st round pick. They can use it to lure a team into taking on a few of their contracts for an expiring deal.

[pearljammer10]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

Yeah I could see that especially if they could land Paul or Howard.

Pierce to Dallas for Marion and Carter?

Marion and Carter are both expirings totally about 12 mil for next year. Does make us younger but gives us the cap space the following year. Although if we are just trading for two olds vets, I would think we could rather just buy out Pierce's contract, let him walk, and save that way.

I'm not sure they would trade Carter, his contract is partially guaranteed so it could be a source of cap savings on its own.

I only added him for salary matching purposes cause I didnt see any other Mavs fit the bill that they would want to get rid of.

[indeedproceed]

I think they will ask for more savings. Pierce to Dallas is very possible.

Yeah I could see that especially if they could land Paul or Howard.

Pierce to Dallas for Marion and Carter?

Marion and Carter are both expirings totally about 12 mil for next year. Does make us younger but gives us the cap space the following year. Although if we are just trading for two olds vets, I would think we could rather just buy out Pierce's contract, let him walk, and save that way.

I'm not sure they would trade Carter, his contract is partially guaranteed so it could be a source of cap savings on its own.

You are incorrect, sir! Carter's contract was only partially guaranteed if he was waived before June 30th, 2012.