I'd rather have McLemore over Noel (circumstantially).

[syfy9]

If Ainge somehow performs a masterful deal involving the 16th, Sully, Lee, Green, or Bradley (NOTE: and somehow manages to KEEP Rondo as well), I'd like to see him get McLemore over Noel.


I really do think that he is such a good fit alongside Rondo. Super athletic, good cutter (google his backdoor cuts), great 3 point shooter, and overall would play a Ray Allen kind of role.

He's not the best ball handler or shot creator, but that is all negated when playing alongside Rondo. It's like Chalmers on the Heat - he's one of the best fitting PGs in the league for them because he doesn't need the ball to be effective.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

So do I.

He isn't going to be superstar quality but he can do everything else on a very high level.

Noel does have a big thing he can offer for any teams, which is rim protection, gotta have one. But I'd really rather have McLemore because of everything else he can offer.

[BleedGreen1989]

Yea I think you could easily talk me into this. Noel scares me much more than Mac

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Yea I think you could easily talk me into this. Noel scares me much more than Mac

I have a couple of questions that I don't want to start another thread for.

Can someone tell me, if a person gets drafted and they absolutely hate the team or place, do they HAVE to sign with that team? If they don't what would happen? Could they play for someone else?

[Who]

Yea I think you could easily talk me into this. Noel scares me much more than Mac

I have a couple of questions that I don't want to start another thread for.

Can someone tell me, if a person gets drafted and they absolutely hate the team or place, do they HAVE to sign with that team? If they don't what would happen? Could they play for someone else?

They can sit out the season and reenter the draft next year. I think it's if they sit out two years they can then become a free agent and sign with whoever they want.

If they go play abroad, the team continues to hold their rights.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Yea I think you could easily talk me into this. Noel scares me much more than Mac

I have a couple of questions that I don't want to start another thread for.

Can someone tell me, if a person gets drafted and they absolutely hate the team or place, do they HAVE to sign with that team? If they don't what would happen? Could they play for someone else?

They can sit out the season and reenter the draft next year. I think it's if they sit out two years they can then become a free agent and sign with whoever they want.

If they go play abroad, the team continues to hold their rights.

Oh, okay. Thank you!


So, pretty much they either sign or sit out 2 yrs and hope someone picks them up as a FA b/c no one is going to take them in the draft the next season for fear he might not want to play for them.

[ManUp]

A potential Ray Allen vs a potential Tyson Chandler. I can't blame anyone for going with McClemore if they feel he's likely to reach his potential. Especially with Noel coming off an acl injury.

[Atzar]

McLemore is rated highly based on what he should be.  He should be an unguardable offensive player with athleticism to spare and a silky jumpshot.  Instead he's an inconsistent player prone to disappearances against good teams with solid talent.

I'm not high on him. 

[syfy9]

McLemore is rated highly based on what he should be.  He should be an unguardable offensive player with athleticism to spare and a silky jumpshot.  Instead he's an inconsistent player prone to disappearances against good teams with solid talent.

I'm not high on him.

Are you high on Noel?

[Atzar]

McLemore is rated highly based on what he should be.  He should be an unguardable offensive player with athleticism to spare and a silky jumpshot.  Instead he's an inconsistent player prone to disappearances against good teams with solid talent.

I'm not high on him.

Are you high on Noel?

Higher than I am on McLemore.  Noel has his own warts (the ACL injury, thin, a frame that can't support much added weight, limited offensive game).  But even with all of that said, I think he's more likely to be a high-level player than McLemore.

In any other year, I would not take Noel with the #1.  Only because this draft is awful at the top do I think he goes first. 

[D.o.s.]

McLemore is rated highly based on what he should be.  He should be an unguardable offensive player with athleticism to spare and a silky jumpshot.  Instead he's an inconsistent player prone to disappearances against good teams with solid talent.

I'm not high on him.

I'm not following the draft too closely, but how many players taken in the top five come out fully formed?

In other words, isn't drafting always influenced by who a player should be?

[bfrombleacher]

Is Kenyon Martin a good comparison?

[Atzar]

McLemore is rated highly based on what he should be.  He should be an unguardable offensive player with athleticism to spare and a silky jumpshot.  Instead he's an inconsistent player prone to disappearances against good teams with solid talent.

I'm not high on him.

I'm not following the draft too closely, but how many players taken in the top five come out fully formed?

In other words, isn't drafting always influenced by who a player should be?

Definitely, but my worry with McLemore is that we aren't dealing with skillset issues.  It's the headspace and the motor that I question with him, and those rarely improve.

In the last several drafts, you've had guys like Durant, who could do one bench press rep at the combine.  Blake Griffin couldn't make anything that wasn't a dunk.  Derrick Rose and John Wall couldn't shoot.  Irving spent his college career injured.  These guys all had their flaws, but the thing that tied them all together and a primary reason they're all succeeding is that they're all tireless workers and fierce competitors who take pride in destroying anybody who tries to check them. 

I don't see that level of intensity and killer instinct in McLemore. 

Is Kenyon Martin a good comparison?

They have some similarities as PF/C's with questionable offensive skills and great defensive impact. 

Serge Ibaka is actually the player that I'd point to as a comparison, though I'm not sure Noel will ever develop Ibaka's underrated jumpshooting ability.  Also, frighteningly enough, Noel may be quicker and more athletic (I can't find reliable draft measurements on Ibaka anywhere).  He should eventually be an absolute nightmare as a weakside defensive presence, and he finishes well enough that he won't be a liability on offense despite his rough edges and lack of ability to create offense for himself.

From a physical standpoint, my worry with Noel on defense is that he doesn't look to have the frame to put on a lot of weight.  He lacks strength and guys will have success bullying him, especially early on.