Combine measurement winners and losers

[snively]

Gobert's size is outlandish. 

[Tr1boy]

Gobert's size is outlandish.

so is Hassan's whiteside. But look at where he is now.

Measurements are a tie breaker when choosing between two or more similiar prospects. But in general it means little or should mean little.

Gobert lacks lateral quickness and doesn't have high basketball skills. Like Hakeem Thabeet i doubt will be successful in the nba

[EnJoY]

The more reading I do about the draft, the more that I want a big man at #16 or higher, and then Tim Hardaway Jr with a lower 1st.

Then again, after looking at the 2014 draft, I literally want to dump the entire team for picks to get Parker or Wiggins, aka Lebron 2.0.

[sofutomygaha]

Is there any video of one-on-one's? I want to see whether or not Mike Muscala, Kelly Olynyk, and Steve Adams pounded Gobert like a cutlet before I get excited about how he can change light bulbs without a step stool.

[Eddie20]

Another list of loser

Kelly olynyk with only 6'9.5 wingspan. Already can't jump very well.  Imo bc of this will fall from his projected 10-14 spot. But if he does to us at 16, i pray danny passes.

list of more winners

Cody Zeller - 6' 10.75 wingspan, from apparently 6'8

Honestly, that's not much of a difference. Plus, Olynyk did have a 9 ft standing reach, which is 2 inches more than Zeller. So I wouldn't call Olynyk a "loser" as I think his numbers across the board (6' 10.75'' w/out shoes 7' 0'' w/shoes) were solid.

[Tr1boy]

Another list of loser

Kelly olynyk with only 6'9.5 wingspan. Already can't jump very well.  Imo bc of this will fall from his projected 10-14 spot. But if he does to us at 16, i pray danny passes.

list of more winners

Cody Zeller - 6' 10.75 wingspan, from apparently 6'8

Honestly, that's not much of a difference. Plus, Olynyk did have a 9 ft standing reach, which is 2 inches more than Zeller. So I wouldn't call Olynyk a "loser" as I think his numbers across the board (6' 10.75'' w/out shoes 7' 0'' w/shoes) were solid.

In a tie breaker situation, he does become a loser. He might have a higher standing reach but max reach, Zeller tops him due to his jumping ability.

Olynyk also is not a physical player. I worry how his game will translate in the nba. Sure he might score 15 points but also his man could score 15-20.

[Celtics4ever]

Olynyk did have a 9 ft standing reach, which is 2 inches more than Zeller.

Who care Zeller has a 35" standing vertical.  Olynyk has short arms not even 6'9" and  could not jump over a phone book.

I bet money that Zeller can easily make up the 2" on his vertical.  Olynyk did poorly on every physical test see the links below.   I know Larry wasn't the best athlete but Kelly is not Larry, Larry led his team to the finals and didn't lose in the second round because he was soft.


https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/335419543935672320

 Sam Vecenie ‏@Sam_Vecenie 2h

Kelly Olynyk's draft stock probably too the biggest hit here. Terrible showing in every athletic realm from him basically.

https://twitter.com/search?q=olynyk&src=typd

Olynyk is the second coming of Michael Smith.

http://www.celticslife.com/2010/11/what-hell-happened-tomichael-smith.html

[snively]

Olynyk's measurements don't bother me all that much.  Luis Scola has carved out a fine career with similar athletic limitations.  Olynyk's going to be a poor defender and a limited rebounder, but there's a chance that he can be a very valuable offensive roleplayer. 

[kozlodoev]

Cody Zeller, 7'0.25" 6'10.75" wing 8'10 standing, not center size but good sized PF

How is a 7-foot, 230-pound 20-year-old not a center?!

[Tr1boy]

Cody Zeller, 7'0.25" 6'10.75" wing 8'10 standing, not center size but good sized PF

How is a 7-foot, 230-pound 20-year-old not a center?!

really?

[kozlodoev]

Cody Zeller, 7'0.25" 6'10.75" wing 8'10 standing, not center size but good sized PF

How is a 7-foot, 230-pound 20-year-old not a center?!

really?

Really what? Larry Sanders and Joakim Noah are about this size, and they're doing just fine. Plus, the kid has every chance to fill out to 240+ in his mid-20s.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Olynyk did have a 9 ft standing reach, which is 2 inches more than Zeller.

Who care Zeller has a 35" standing vertical.  Olynyk has short arms not even 6'9" and  could not jump over a phone book.

I bet money that Zeller can easily make up the 2" on his vertical.  Olynyk did poorly on every physical test see the links below.   I know Larry wasn't the best athlete but Kelly is not Larry, Larry led his team to the finals and didn't lose in the second round because he was soft.


https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/335419543935672320

 Sam Vecenie ‏@Sam_Vecenie 2h

Kelly Olynyk's draft stock probably too the biggest hit here. Terrible showing in every athletic realm from him basically.

https://twitter.com/search?q=olynyk&src=typd

Olynyk is the second coming of Michael Smith.

http://www.celticslife.com/2010/11/what-hell-happened-tomichael-smith.html

Olynyk has the skills to score in the NBA level that Zeller though.

Zeller could not even play decent against Syracuse. Gonzaga may have lost early, but Olynyk sure as heck did show up. I'd have him over Zeller.

A poor man's Brook Lopez, Olynyk is.

[Celtics4ever]

Olynyk has the skills to score in the NBA level that Zeller though.

Zeller could not even play decent against Syracuse. Gonzaga may have lost early, but Olynyk sure as heck did show up. I'd have him over Zeller.

A poor man's Brook Lopez, Olynyk is.

Thank God your not our GM.

I would be glad to bet you he will not.  Everyone will be more athletic than him, he will get ate alive.   Lopez is a much better athlete.

Most mocks have Zeller in top five.  Olynyk is just outside the top ten in most drafts.   Please post one with Kelly in the top five.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Olynyk is only going to drop with the short arms and miserable fail on his physical athletic tests.   We already had Ostertag.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640535-2013-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round-predictions-with-potential-trades/page/17

Look at that vertical.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Olynyk has the skills to score in the NBA level that Zeller though.

Zeller could not even play decent against Syracuse. Gonzaga may have lost early, but Olynyk sure as heck did show up. I'd have him over Zeller.

A poor man's Brook Lopez, Olynyk is.

Thank God your not our GM.

I would be glad to bet you he will not.  Everyone will be more athletic than him, he will get ate alive.   Lopez is a much better athlete.

Most mocks have Zeller in top five.  Olynyk is just outside the top ten in most drafts.   Please post one with Kelly in the top five.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Olynyk is only going to drop with the short arms and miserable fail on his physical athletic tests.   We already had Ostertag.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640535-2013-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round-predictions-with-potential-trades/page/17

Look at that vertical.

Did not say I was going to draft him. But I would take him over Zeller. I'm drafting Steven Adams for us.

Speaking of get ate alive, Zeller's strength is actually his biggest red flag. For a Center he's being pushed around by Big 10 forwards in the block. Zeller is in the top 5 because of that measurements, and his tenacity, but he'll have a hard time againts NBA competetion strength wise.

Olynyk is not a soft as other people think he is. His post moves are polished and is NBA ready. He's not a high jumper but he has better footwork offensively than most Centers coming in. He's an offensive big who you can drop the ball and make work in the post. He also has a 9'0" standing reach, so he's not as short as you think.

[Tr1boy]

Olynyk has the skills to score in the NBA level that Zeller though.

Zeller could not even play decent against Syracuse. Gonzaga may have lost early, but Olynyk sure as heck did show up. I'd have him over Zeller.

A poor man's Brook Lopez, Olynyk is.

Thank God your not our GM.

I would be glad to bet you he will not.  Everyone will be more athletic than him, he will get ate alive.   Lopez is a much better athlete.

Most mocks have Zeller in top five.  Olynyk is just outside the top ten in most drafts.   Please post one with Kelly in the top five.

http://www.nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Olynyk is only going to drop with the short arms and miserable fail on his physical athletic tests.   We already had Ostertag.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640535-2013-nba-mock-draft-full-1st-round-predictions-with-potential-trades/page/17

Look at that vertical.

Did not say I was going to draft him. But I would take him over Zeller. I'm drafting Steven Adams for us.

Speaking of get ate alive, Zeller's strength is actually his biggest red flag. For a Center he's being pushed around by Big 10 forwards in the block. Zeller is in the top 5 because of that measurements, and his tenacity, but he'll have a hard time againts NBA competetion strength wise.

Olynyk is not a soft as other people think he is. His post moves are polished and is NBA ready. He's not a high jumper but he has better footwork offensively than most Centers coming in. He's an offensive big who you can drop the ball and make work in the post. He also has a 9'0" standing reach, so he's not as short as you think.

zeller is not a centre in the nba. Olynyk is not a center either, but due to his avg mobility and lack of athleticism, it might be his only way to stick in the nba. He will need to pack some serious strength to accomplish this.

Zeller has above avg quickness and of course top tier athleticism. He has the lateral quickness to guard quick pf's in the nba. Also can run and finish in transition.  He could play Center pt but due to his lack of excellent strength he will be overwhelmed. HIs brother Tyler is a perfect example. In college he is a center but in the nba he is adj to the pf game, taking for mid range jump shots, running the floor and not as occupied underneath the basket.