If KG Doesn't Retire: 4 Trades

[ronaldo943]

If KG doesn't retire you play him and Pierce, and try to use their contracts at the deadline or around 2014 draft.

Lee and Terry's trade value might be at an all-time low right now, so you need them to play a lot next year to make them attractive trade assets... at the deadline.

But if KG retires, you need to get something out of him, and try to maximize what Pierce can get in return. No Humphries, you need to land an All Star, or young players + bad short term contracts + picks. The Nets can't trade their first round pick in consecutive years, I think, so it wouldn't work that way.

Trade&retire Garnett (files papers after trade) for Turkoglu and the Orlando 2014 first rounder. Win-win.

Trade Pierce to Chicago for Boozer + the Bobcats 2014 first rounder.

Get something good out of Terry/Lee/Bass at the right moment, when their value is high.

The primary goal is get some assets and flexibility to be a player in the 2014 Draft and Free Agency. The Celtics won't get the top pick through ping pong balls, but they can get their building blocks through trades.

Lol yes the Magic will trades there 2014 picks for Pierce and KG you realize the 2014 draft is suppose to be a strong draft these picks are worth a ton and KG and Pierce wont get it done especially for teams that are looking to rebuild and the Bulls wouldnt give up Boozer and Bobcats 2014 first rounder for Pierce lets be realistic now

[CelticConcourse]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

[PhoSita]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

I think it's funny when people post things like this as if it's the definitive word on the matter or that it's going to end the discussion.

[CelticConcourse]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

I think it's funny when people post things like this as if it's the definitive word on the matter or that it's going to end the discussion.

Explain to me why you think KG would stay with the Celtics only to play for another team. Does that make any sense?

"I'm staying with the Celtics. Bleed green!"
*gets traded to Clippers*

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

[PhoSita]

I don't get dumping Pierce for expiring contracts because Pierce is expiring himself. I like the idea of obtaining Bledsoe and Jordan for KG but that ship may have sailed

Again, the idea from my perspective is that Pierce would need to get traded for KG to be open to being traded.

Also, if you could get an extra first round pick out of it and also ensure that the team will be that much worse (for the sake of getting a better lottery pick), that has value.

Furthermore, we need to give Rondo and Green the best chance to put up good numbers and raise their trade value.  Trading Pierce along with KG completely opens up the offense because the team can't lean on those two guys anymore.  Rondo and Green then have to pick up the slack and can't defer as they often did with KG and Pierce around.

[PhoSita]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

I think it's funny when people post things like this as if it's the definitive word on the matter or that it's going to end the discussion.

Explain to me why you think KG would stay with the Celtics only to play for another team. Does that make any sense?

"I'm staying with the Celtics. Bleed green!"
*gets traded to Clippers*

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

KG: "I don't want to retire yet, I feel like I can still play and help a team win."

Celtics: "We just traded Paul Pierce.  We're rebuilding."

KG: "Welp, I still want to play.  What good teams can you trade me to?"


Worst case scenario, they trade Pierce and then KG says, well, I'm retiring.

But either way the team moves forward without KG or Pierce and has gained a lot of future cap flexibility while ensuring a much better draft pick next year, and opening the way for the younger guys to increase their trade value by playing more minutes and playing bigger roles in the offense.

[CelticConcourse]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

I think it's funny when people post things like this as if it's the definitive word on the matter or that it's going to end the discussion.

Explain to me why you think KG would stay with the Celtics only to play for another team. Does that make any sense?

"I'm staying with the Celtics. Bleed green!"
*gets traded to Clippers*

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

KG: "I don't want to retire yet, I feel like I can still play and help a team win."

Celtics: "We just traded Paul Pierce.  We're rebuilding."

KG: "Welp, I still want to play.  What good teams can you trade me to?"


Worst case scenario, they trade Pierce and then KG says, well, I'm retiring.

But either way the team moves forward without KG or Pierce and has gained a lot of future cap flexibility while ensuring a much better draft pick next year, and opening the way for the younger guys to increase their trade value by playing more minutes and playing bigger roles in the offense.

If KG wants to play one more year, he'll say he wants to be the Celtic (he's under a contract here, and he won't be the first to say 'it's time to rebuild')

Pierce has already stated he wants to play one more year. Who doesn't want 15 million dollars? If KG plays for Boston, Pierce will likely choose to play for Boston too.

Doc will remain coach. Something will happen with the other 12 guys on our roster who are already signed for next year.

We will have another go-around.




If KG says, "I don't want to retire yet, I feel like I can still play and help a team win," then it will be with the Celtics. I'm pretty sure about that.

But hey, I could be wrong.

[SHAQATTACK]

KG saw how Pierce stunk up the court , from every conceivable way l shooting like a blind chucker.
in the playoffs.
KG probably wants Pierce traded......or pay for corrective surgery to fix  nerve in his neck or what ever is making him look 90 years old.

KG wants to end his legacy as a Celtic......not play the roll as a has been .  If not he'll retire a Celtic

KG doesn't want to be Clipper or anything else.

[ronaldo943]

Pierce has already stated he wants to play one more year. Who doesn't want 15 million dollars? If KG plays for Boston, Pierce will likely choose to play for Boston too.

This is too funny Pierce wants to play for Boston 100% thing is Boston is thinking about buying out Pierce, Pierce is not retiring this year, whether Pierce stays or leaves really is up to the Celtics

[KGs Knee]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

I think it's funny when people post things like this as if it's the definitive word on the matter or that it's going to end the discussion.

Explain to me why you think KG would stay with the Celtics only to play for another team. Does that make any sense?

"I'm staying with the Celtics. Bleed green!"
*gets traded to Clippers*

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

KG: "I don't want to retire yet, I feel like I can still play and help a team win."

Celtics: "We just traded Paul Pierce.  We're rebuilding."

KG: "Welp, I still want to play.  What good teams can you trade me to?"


Worst case scenario, they trade Pierce and then KG says, well, I'm retiring.

But either way the team moves forward without KG or Pierce and has gained a lot of future cap flexibility while ensuring a much better draft pick next year, and opening the way for the younger guys to increase their trade value by playing more minutes and playing bigger roles in the offense.

Or even worse, by doing so, Danny royally p---es off KG, and Kg then decides to take his ball and go home, while still collecting his $12m+ this year, and whatever his buyout is for next year.

I could easily see it backfiring on Danny (trying to force KG out the door).

[gpap]

Which won't work? KG has stated numerous times if Paul Pierce gets traded then he'll retire.

I don't buy that for a second. KG is being paid 12 million by the Celtics. Why would he just forego that money? Because Pierce won't be here?

If Ainge can put together a decent team on the court, partially at Pierce's expense, then KG and Doc will be back with bells on.

[gpap]

Idea ....keep KG  and   Dump Pierce.for a Big

I am liking your idea. If the Pierce for Josh Smith possibility still exists like it supposedly did last February, then Ainge should pull the trigger in a heartbeat.

[gpap]

I don't get dumping Pierce for expiring contracts because Pierce is expiring himself. I like the idea of obtaining Bledsoe and Jordan for KG but that ship may have sailed

I agree. If this move was going to be made, it would've been done at the deadline. Time to move on from that. If anything, I'd now rather have KG back than Bledsoe/Jordan.

Now if you throw in Blake, that's a TOTALLY different story.

[gpap]

Idea ....keep KG  and   Dump Pierce.for a Big

Pierce for Pau Gasol would solve a lot of problems for both teams, honestly.

If the Celtics are trying to "win now" with Pau (degenerative tendinitis in his knees) and 37 year old KG, sure.

Yeah I'm in favor of trading everyone for expiring contracts, young assets and draft picks... that's always the best approach when your team ceases to be a contender and doesn't have the assets to put a contender together.

But if we insist on standing pat for the most part, the one trade that makes a lot of sense is Pierce of Pau.

Except for the whole "would require trading Paul Pierce to the Lakers" thing, which would go over about as well with fans as a free lobotomy.


Anyway, I think Pau and KG would have been a great fit together a few years ago, but right now I'd say both KG and Pau have to play at center in order to stay relatively fresh and productive without being taken advantage of by quicker, younger players.

I think Pau could be a really interesting fit playing at center on the Mavs next to Dirk or on the T-Wolves next to Love.

Disagree. You forget both Gasol and KG are having offseason surgeries done.  If they both come back healthy next year, which they should, I think that could be one of the best front courts in the NBA.

[gpap]

If KG Doesn't Retire: He Remains A Celtic.

KG isn't getting traded. Period.

How do you know?