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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2013, 07:21:51 PM »

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Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year? Why? Staying on the bench polishing Docs shoes?
Somebody is going to sit on the bench...might as well be a 7 footer who might develop into something.
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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2013, 07:22:37 PM »

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Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year? Why? Staying on the bench polishing Docs shoes?
Somebody is going to sit on the bench...might as well be a 7 footer who might develop into something.

Yeah, but we were talking about Fab Melo. ;)


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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »

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Can someone give me an example of someone who at first looked as hopeless as he did on the court, but then blossomed into a decent center?

I'm not asking that question sarcastically/rhetorically/whatever. I really want to know if Melo has a chance.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2013, 07:26:03 PM »

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Can someone give me an example of someone who at first looked as hopeless as he did on the court, but then blossomed into a decent center?

I'm not asking that question sarcastically/rhetorically/whatever. I really want to know if Melo has a chance.

People will say Perk, but 1) I disagree that Perk was ever that bad, and 2) Perk was a lot younger.


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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2013, 07:29:26 PM »

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Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year? Why? Staying on the bench polishing Docs shoes?
Somebody is going to sit on the bench...might as well be a 7 footer who might develop into something.

Yeah, but we were talking about Fab Melo. ;)
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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2013, 07:31:04 PM »

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Can someone give me an example of someone who at first looked as hopeless as he did on the court, but then blossomed into a decent center?

I'm not asking that question sarcastically/rhetorically/whatever. I really want to know if Melo has a chance.

People will say Perk, but 1) I disagree that Perk was ever that bad, and 2) Perk was a lot younger.

That's what I feared.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2013, 08:08:30 PM »

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Can someone give me an example of someone who at first looked as hopeless as he did on the court, but then blossomed into a decent center?

I'm not asking that question sarcastically/rhetorically/whatever. I really want to know if Melo has a chance.

People will say Perk, but 1) I disagree that Perk was ever that bad, and 2) Perk was a lot younger.

Yes. Melo is 22 and he has not even shown enough promise to get garbage minutes on a big man-starved team.

At that same age Perk was a starting center, and one year away from being the center on an NBA championship team, averaging 7 pts, 6 reb and 1.5 blocks in 25 mpg.

World of difference between the two so far.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2013, 08:13:31 PM »

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He looked pretty good back in December when he had that ridicolous triple double - 15 points, 16 rebounds, 14 blocks - followed by 32 points, 9 rebounds and 9 blocks in the next game. But he doesn't have the basic skills to put it all together and keep it together.

The potential to be in the rotation is definitely there, but he needs to practice with a big man coach all summer this year and next.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2013, 08:52:00 PM »

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Them not playing is not their choice.....doc never played melo, white.....this is docs limits as a coach..enter popovich....he plays guys....makes them develop..now follow up and do your job as coach....!!!

doc is a lazy coach.

Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year? Why? Staying on the bench polishing Docs shoes?

These comments and my Perkins comparison reminded me: I just went back and looked at the numbers, and during the 06-07 season we had the following minute allocation:

Player     Age   Exp    MPG
Perkins    22      3         20
Rondo     20      R         23
Powe       23      R         11

Those same guys played even more in 07-08 (and two of them started!), when our other rookie Big Baby was also getting significant minutes.

After we fire Doc because he holds back rookies like Fab by not playing them, we should find out who was the Celtics coach in 2006-2007, and re-hire that guy.

That guy loved playing rookies!

He knew how to develop young talent into All-Stars!

He started two guys who were 21 and 23!!

He played rookies even on a championship team!!

!!!!

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2013, 09:00:37 PM »

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what shall we do on fab melo. put in d-league for another year?
trade filler?
play 10minutes a game?

I think Melo was a complete waste of a draft pick. 

I'd gladly package him as trade filler.  However, good luck with that; Washington preferred Jason Collins to Melo, so it looks like at least some teams feel that he has negative trade value.

Essentially, Washington said "We'd rather have expiring contracts than pay Melo $1.3m".  Not good.

Essentially, you're saying you trust the Wizards in the area of talent evaluation.

Well, a lot of people think they did good drafting Wall and  Beal.

I don't think their talent evaluating skills are the problem, so much as their ability to develop said talent is a problem.  It also seems like their making efforts to fix that problem.

not to hijack the topic but...

Developing talent is the problem yes.  But giving them credit for drafting Wall is ludicrous, he was the clear #1 pick, a 12 year old would have taken him. 

I'll give them some credit for Beal, but what about selecting Jan Vescely with the #6 pick??  Theyve also drafted some horribly selfish and/or stupid players...JaVale McGee, Nick Young, Andre Blatche....
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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2013, 09:10:50 PM »

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Oh, and I think Fabs celing as a player is a less coordinated JaVale McGee.

eeek.

However, if we're gonna rebuild, there's no point in getting rid of him
Greg

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2013, 08:25:24 AM »

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Lol at the people criticizing Doc for not playing Fab Melo and DJ White.

People do realize he was worried about putting a team out there who could run an offense well enough to compete in the playoffs, right?

And that didn't happen so obviously Fab and DJ should have played less if anything.


A tired pp turning the ball over  is running the offense?  How bout doc insert some bigs to defend to create offense.  And please don't tell me these players couldn't find a spot in the rotation.  If you can't find minutes for a 6'10- 7'0 guy that's played college and pro ball then you're a complete moron.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2013, 08:32:46 AM »

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This is not a big picture decision. He's not that valuable. If he's filler he's filler.

Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2013, 08:33:55 AM »

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Is there any advantage in getting rid of him?
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Re: Should We Keep Fab Melo Next Year
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2013, 08:35:58 AM »

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You don't dump a raw project big man after 1 year.


Let's get to the end of his rookie contract and then worry about whether we need to dump him.
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