We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot

[slamtheking]

C's need a legit starting SG that's capable of racking up 20 pts a game and playing some D.

Or they need a second legit starting big to take some of the pressure off KG.

Hmm...if only we had someone that could board, play decent D and get garbageman points...wouldn't matter if he's 6'9 and undersized...

Yes, I think one of those positions (SG, PF) needs to provide scoring and the other can be a more defensive option.

So, for example

* Defensive guard (A.Bradley) + scoring PF (M.Beasley?)
or
* Defensive PF (Josh Smith?) and scoring SG (Nick Young?)

since this was an AB thread, I wasn't going to deviate into the big man issues this team has.  That's another can of worms.  no disagreement that they need help there too.  I think Sully will help when healthy and Bass is a capable back up (not who I want starting) but C's really need a quality center and another quality 4/5 would help too.

[Who]

C's need a legit starting SG that's capable of racking up 20 pts a game and playing some D.

Or they need a second legit starting big to take some of the pressure off KG.

Hmm...if only we had someone that could board, play decent D and get garbageman points...wouldn't matter if he's 6'9 and undersized...

Yes, I think one of those positions (SG, PF) needs to provide scoring and the other can be a more defensive option.

So, for example

* Defensive guard (A.Bradley) + scoring PF (M.Beasley?)
or
* Defensive PF (Josh Smith?) and scoring SG (Nick Young?)

since this was an AB thread, I wasn't going to deviate into the big man issues this team has.  That's another can of worms.  no disagreement that they need help there too.  I think Sully will help when healthy and Bass is a capable back up (not who I want starting) but C's really need a quality center and another quality 4/5 would help too.

I wonder if it would be better just to move Bass altogether.

I like Bass as a bench player but I am not wild about Bass + Sully together as main big man help to KG. I think it might be time to move Bass on.

[AB_Celtic]

C's need a legit starting SG that's capable of racking up 20 pts a game and playing some D.

Or they need a second legit starting big to take some of the pressure off KG.

Hmm...if only we had someone that could board, play decent D and get garbageman points...wouldn't matter if he's 6'9 and undersized...

Yes, I think one of those positions (SG, PF) needs to provide scoring and the other can be a more defensive option.

So, for example

* Defensive guard (A.Bradley) + scoring PF (M.Beasley?)
or
* Defensive PF (Josh Smith?) and scoring SG (Nick Young?)

since this was an AB thread, I wasn't going to deviate into the big man issues this team has.  That's another can of worms.  no disagreement that they need help there too.  I think Sully will help when healthy and Bass is a capable back up (not who I want starting) but C's really need a quality center and another quality 4/5 would help too.

I wonder if it would be better just to move Bass altogether.

I like Bass as a bench player but I am not wild about Bass + Sully together as main big man help to KG. I think it might be time to move Bass on.

Who's going to take him? Or Terry?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6uodgg

wishfulthinkingwishfulthinkingwishfulthinking...

[wdleehi]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

He got really hot at the end of last season, then got hurt.


Missed a ton of time this season because of it.



So he has a short track record of elevated play mixed with an injury.



I am glad they didn't sell Bradley when his value isn't that high yet.

[slamtheking]

C's need a legit starting SG that's capable of racking up 20 pts a game and playing some D.

Or they need a second legit starting big to take some of the pressure off KG.

Hmm...if only we had someone that could board, play decent D and get garbageman points...wouldn't matter if he's 6'9 and undersized...

Yes, I think one of those positions (SG, PF) needs to provide scoring and the other can be a more defensive option.

So, for example

* Defensive guard (A.Bradley) + scoring PF (M.Beasley?)
or
* Defensive PF (Josh Smith?) and scoring SG (Nick Young?)

since this was an AB thread, I wasn't going to deviate into the big man issues this team has.  That's another can of worms.  no disagreement that they need help there too.  I think Sully will help when healthy and Bass is a capable back up (not who I want starting) but C's really need a quality center and another quality 4/5 would help too.

I wonder if it would be better just to move Bass altogether.

I like Bass as a bench player but I am not wild about Bass + Sully together as main big man help to KG. I think it might be time to move Bass on.

Who's going to take him? Or Terry?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6uodgg

wishfulthinkingwishfulthinkingwishfulthinking...

and there's the rub.  I can't see anyone taking them.

Danny gambled in locking up this roster for 3 years.  if they played great -- he looks great for locking them in.  if they play like crap (like this year) he's stuck with them at least another year until they become expiring deals

[BballTim]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

  From what I heard the Celts got quite a few calls about Avery close to the 2012 trade deadline. He seemed to be pretty valuable at the time.

[wdleehi]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

  From what I heard the Celts got quite a few calls about Avery close to the 2012 trade deadline. He seemed to be pretty valuable at the time.

But did they get any offers of actual value or were teams trying to buy cheap?

[Who]

C's need a legit starting SG that's capable of racking up 20 pts a game and playing some D.

Or they need a second legit starting big to take some of the pressure off KG.

Hmm...if only we had someone that could board, play decent D and get garbageman points...wouldn't matter if he's 6'9 and undersized...

Yes, I think one of those positions (SG, PF) needs to provide scoring and the other can be a more defensive option.

So, for example

* Defensive guard (A.Bradley) + scoring PF (M.Beasley?)
or
* Defensive PF (Josh Smith?) and scoring SG (Nick Young?)

since this was an AB thread, I wasn't going to deviate into the big man issues this team has.  That's another can of worms.  no disagreement that they need help there too.  I think Sully will help when healthy and Bass is a capable back up (not who I want starting) but C's really need a quality center and another quality 4/5 would help too.

I wonder if it would be better just to move Bass altogether.

I like Bass as a bench player but I am not wild about Bass + Sully together as main big man help to KG. I think it might be time to move Bass on.

Who's going to take him? Or Terry?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6uodgg

wishfulthinkingwishfulthinkingwishfulthinking...

I think you would have to either (1) take a risk on someone or (2) take a talent downgrade.

To be honest I am not sure that moving Bass wouldn't give the Celtics an "addition by subtraction" type situation heading into the next season. Allow them to better balance their lineup. I am not sure what that would look like exactly but I think it might be doable. Chuck Hayes maybe.

In terms of taking a risk on someone = a Michael Beasley, Tyrus Thomas, a Nick Young type player. Maybe Bargnani in a larger deal. Someone like one of those players.

[BballTim]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

  From what I heard the Celts got quite a few calls about Avery close to the 2012 trade deadline. He seemed to be pretty valuable at the time.

But did they get any offers of actual value or were teams trying to buy cheap?

  I don't recall any particular offers but from what I read he was a fairly sought after commodity. Again, he was playing quite well for the Celts in the 11-12 season when he was healthy. For all of the "nightmare backcourt" silliness one could easily argue that if he'd been healthy in the playoffs the Celts might have had the best starting backcourt of all the playoff teams.

[EJPLAYA]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

  From what I heard the Celts got quite a few calls about Avery close to the 2012 trade deadline. He seemed to be pretty valuable at the time.

But did they get any offers of actual value or were teams trying to buy cheap?

  I don't recall any particular offers but from what I read he was a fairly sought after commodity. Again, he was playing quite well for the Celts in the 11-12 season when he was healthy. For all of the "nightmare backcourt" silliness one could easily argue that if he'd been healthy in the playoffs the Celts might have had the best starting backcourt of all the playoff teams.

I was clearly wrong. AB is most definitely a scoring nightmare for teams! 1-4 from the floor and 0-2 from three. Boy he had the Knicks shaking in their boots! I can't wait to see what a non-scoring Rondo and AB do out there together for us in the future. The other 3 guys can just sit back and watch those two in action!

[BballTim]

Can someone tell me when Bradley had all this trade value in the NBA when he could be traded?

  From what I heard the Celts got quite a few calls about Avery close to the 2012 trade deadline. He seemed to be pretty valuable at the time.

But did they get any offers of actual value or were teams trying to buy cheap?

  I don't recall any particular offers but from what I read he was a fairly sought after commodity. Again, he was playing quite well for the Celts in the 11-12 season when he was healthy. For all of the "nightmare backcourt" silliness one could easily argue that if he'd been healthy in the playoffs the Celts might have had the best starting backcourt of all the playoff teams.

I was clearly wrong. AB is most definitely a scoring nightmare for teams! 1-4 from the floor and 0-2 from three. Boy he had the Knicks shaking in their boots! I can't wait to see what a non-scoring Rondo and AB do out there together for us in the future. The other 3 guys can just sit back and watch those two in action!

  You were clearly wrong, anyone who saw last year's playoffs could have told you that. Also, Rondo averaged 17.3 ppg in the playoffs last year, I don't see how anyone would call that non-scoring. Rondo averaged 17/7/12 in the playoffs last year. Put him on this team and, yes, there's a pretty good chance the Knicks *would* be quaking in their boots.

[bfrombleacher]

Replace Avery Bradley with Ray Allen then you'll have a completely right thread.

[BballTim]

Replace Avery Bradley with Ray Allen then you'll have a completely right thread.

  The only problem is Ray would get hot *after* the trade deadline, not before.