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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2013, 07:32:54 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2013, 07:42:21 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2013, 07:43:19 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot. 
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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2013, 07:53:50 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot.

Wait is that the guy who compared Rondo to Sasha Vujačić? Where's that guy?

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2013, 07:59:18 PM »

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I think Bradley and Rondo will be a great team in the future. Bradley is not a point guard and probably won't play point guard much next year.
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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2013, 08:02:45 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot.

I think Curry and Irving are perfectly adequate as point guards, though they are surely scoring point guards.

Rondo is an exceedingly poor 3 point shooter - the worst in the league among starting PGs, by my reckoning.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't think Bradley would pair as well with an offensive-minded PG who was an extremely poor 3 point shooter (like Monta Ellis, maybe).

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2013, 08:04:36 PM »

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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2013, 08:13:29 PM »

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I just don't think you can pair Bradley with Rondo and be successful given that neither one is a good 3 point shooter.

I think you can, but the Celtics should really be searching for a stretch 4 who is a high-percentage three-point shooter, which is why I covet Ryan Anderson and am skeptical of Josh Smith.
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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2013, 08:15:15 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot.

I think Curry and Irving are perfectly adequate as point guards, though they are surely scoring point guards.

Rondo is an exceedingly poor 3 point shooter - the worst in the league among starting PGs, by my reckoning.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't think Bradley would pair as well with an offensive-minded PG who was an extremely poor 3 point shooter (like Monta Ellis, maybe).

  I don't think Rondo's that poor a 3 point shooter, he doesn't take very many so his numbers are skewed by end of quarter/shot clock heaves. If you watched his jump shooting he was edging closer to the line as the season progressed.

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2013, 08:19:36 PM »

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Rondo's absence is now exposing all the flaws in these players when it counts the most.  I would've loved it to be true that we are better without Rondo but reality is we weren't.  We never were. 

Some of the most annoying things this season is to come back to the forum everyday to all those "we're better without Rondo" threads and posters.  Just ignorant.  Ignorant.

Rondo made EVERYBODY better.  Not just Avery.  He has made Kevin, Paul, and Ray look like a million bucks for years because he was that good. 

God, I miss him so much.  Get back better, Rondo.

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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2013, 08:20:58 PM »

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  I don't think Rondo's that poor a 3 point shooter, he doesn't take very many so his numbers are skewed by end of quarter/shot clock heaves. If you watched his jump shooting he was edging closer to the line as the season progressed.

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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2013, 08:39:41 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot.

I think Curry and Irving are perfectly adequate as point guards, though they are surely scoring point guards.

Rondo is an exceedingly poor 3 point shooter - the worst in the league among starting PGs, by my reckoning.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't think Bradley would pair as well with an offensive-minded PG who was an extremely poor 3 point shooter (like Monta Ellis, maybe).

  I don't think Rondo's that poor a 3 point shooter, he doesn't take very many so his numbers are skewed by end of quarter/shot clock heaves. If you watched his jump shooting he was edging closer to the line as the season progressed.

I'd love to see the data on that point. Do you know of any?

But regardless, I'd bet that many good 3 point shooters take plenty of end-of-clock heaves too. The difference is that their early-clock shooting is high-volume and good enough to outweigh the shots taken under duress.

Or, put another way: on some level it doesn't really matter much if Rondo's a great 3 point shooter if he never takes them, because either way he's not spreading the floor like serious 3 point threats do.

And really, do we think that if he were good, Doc wouldn't have found a way to get him some of those shots?

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2013, 09:03:57 PM »

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Bradley is only under-performing because Rondo is injured.
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Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2013, 10:01:09 PM »

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I agree completely about the Rondo pairing, though I think AB would be great alongside a scoring PG (like Irving or Steph Curry).

Who would pass the ball?

I'm not sure I understand the question. You don't think Curry and Irving can pass?

About as well as Rondo can shoot.

I think Curry and Irving are perfectly adequate as point guards, though they are surely scoring point guards.

Rondo is an exceedingly poor 3 point shooter - the worst in the league among starting PGs, by my reckoning.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't think Bradley would pair as well with an offensive-minded PG who was an extremely poor 3 point shooter (like Monta Ellis, maybe).

  I don't think Rondo's that poor a 3 point shooter, he doesn't take very many so his numbers are skewed by end of quarter/shot clock heaves. If you watched his jump shooting he was edging closer to the line as the season progressed.

I'd love to see the data on that point. Do you know of any?

But regardless, I'd bet that many good 3 point shooters take plenty of end-of-clock heaves too. The difference is that their early-clock shooting is high-volume and good enough to outweigh the shots taken under duress.

  That's basically what I was saying.

Or, put another way: on some level it doesn't really matter much if Rondo's a great 3 point shooter if he never takes them, because either way he's not spreading the floor like serious 3 point threats do.


  I said that I don't think Rondo's an exceedingly poor 3 point shooter, not that I think he's a great 3 point shooter. He's not great at spreading the floor but then again that's not his usual role in the offense.

And really, do we think that if he were good, Doc wouldn't have found a way to get him some of those shots?

  Again, I think he'll take a few more 3s going forward, but it's never going to be a huge part of his game, he's more effective creating for others than scoring.

Re: We should have traded Avery Bradley while he was hot
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2013, 10:14:24 PM »

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Guys like AB and Wilcox excel when they are playing alongside with Rondo. Now they can't get much open looks because the offense runs too much on PP and KG.