bench players will not save us, put green bass bradley coming off the bench.....

[krook]

agree or disagree?
it gave us more boost
don't think of melo and green match-up yet
i want pierce on him, then melo is next coming in fresh to contain melo
pierce as starter can give us 28 to 30+
green can give us 26 points or more than (as a bench player)

pierce is resting, bench offense is running

since terry is not used by doc rivers so well this guy terry is good, he needs a boost for himself, if we pair him with guys like green bass bradley, i think he is good, if teammates can score, i think terry is being motivated, since we don't have a pick n' roll guy (dirk or gasol type)

why bass on the bench, bass will prevent k-mart from grabbing rebounds and getting some inside presence

why bradley on bench? he can contain j.r. smith than lee
i put lee on shumpert, smith has the height on bradley, but i think bradley can prevent smith scoring coming from the bench,

now bradley is really good when rondo was in, and bradley is not a PG to me, he needs a good PG beside him, i was thinking of t-will, this is the time they can run full court press, t-will can somehow pass the ball, i'm ok with crawford also, either of the two,
t-will or crawford can guard felton, it should not be bradley, bradley is best as SG
if smith was starting bradley is starting also, as long as bradley is defending smith...

terry can guard kidd
and i was also thinking of terry n' shavlik pick n' roll

these is not just about defense, offense should flow from our bench players

any thoughts?

[bfrombleacher]

It said "bench players will not save usa" before. I was like "manage your expectations, bro!"

But no. Doesn't matter who starts, it's who finishes.

[Who]

Need Bradley to stop Felton's dribble drive game.

Once Felton gets into the paint, on dribble penetration, he creates shots for all of New York's three point shooters. Limiting his dribble penetration is vital to stopping New York's perimeter game (3 point FGAs).

Bradley needs to start.

[Celtics4ever]

If we did this our starters would get owned.  Not enough good young legs to go around.

[nickagneta]

krook, aren't you the guy that for months was advocating Jeff Green had to start. One horrible bench game and now he has to come off the bench?

Over react much!!!

[BballTim]

agree or disagree?
it gave us more boost
don't think of melo and green match-up yet
i want pierce on him, then melo is next coming in fresh to contain melo
pierce as starter can give us 28 to 30+
green can give us 26 points or more than (as a bench player)

  When you say 28 to 30+ from PP, are you talking about points or minutes? And when you say "can give us" is that what you reasonably expect from them in a given game, or what you might be lucky enough to get from them on a given night but can't expect more than once or so a series? Because your projections generally seem to be very optimistic. PP has averaged 20 ppg or so in each of the last 5 playoffs. So he might give you 28-30 once in a series, but he'll also give you a lot more games where he gets 15 or so.

[The Rondo Show]

No lineup change needed. We need to score points in the 4th quarter.

[kgainez]

only thing I slightly agree with is that JG on the bench was great. The 2nd unit, even when Rondo was in, dominated games to me with their free-ish kind of play. Granted we also had a Leandro Barbosa.

I'm really thinking if we had LB back with JET, JG plays his 40-45min/game, use a big that runs the floor well like a Wilcox, we'd be in a better place. No matter what you're doing, you have to respect LB and JET and JG, someone would be wide open.

Right now it's a streaky J. Craw, JET and a streaky Lee. Nothing to really invoke a bunch of fear.

[nickagneta]

only thing I slightly agree with is that JG on the bench was great. The 2nd unit, even when Rondo was in, dominated games to me with their free-ish kind of play. Granted we also had a Leandro Barbosa.

I'm really thinking if we had LB back with JET, JG plays his 40-45min/game, use a big that runs the floor well like a Wilcox, we'd be in a better place. No matter what you're doing, you have to respect LB and JET and JG, someone would be wide open.

Right now it's a streaky J. Craw, JET and a streaky Lee. Nothing to really invoke a bunch of fear.

Well who left on the Celtic team is going to invoke a bunch of fear?

Putting Green, Bass and Bradley on the bench cripples the starting lineup and means your bench players are going to have to come in and make up double digit leads.

I say leave it the way it was. Lee, Terry and Crawford won't go 0 for the game again. Also, the offensive problem wasn't just the bench.

The starters were pretty terrible offensively in the 2nd half too. KG needs to post up more and establish and inside out game. Dribble penetration to space the outside and allow kick outs to Bass and Bradley have to happen as well. We have to have our starters be aggressive going to the basket to create contact, get to the line and get Knicks in foul trouble.

[kgainez]

only thing I slightly agree with is that JG on the bench was great. The 2nd unit, even when Rondo was in, dominated games to me with their free-ish kind of play. Granted we also had a Leandro Barbosa.

I'm really thinking if we had LB back with JET, JG plays his 40-45min/game, use a big that runs the floor well like a Wilcox, we'd be in a better place. No matter what you're doing, you have to respect LB and JET and JG, someone would be wide open.

Right now it's a streaky J. Craw, JET and a streaky Lee. Nothing to really invoke a bunch of fear.

Well who left on the Celtic team is going to invoke a bunch of fear?

Putting Green, Bass and Bradley on the bench cripples the starting lineup and means your bench players are going to have to come in and make up double digit leads.

I say leave it the way it was. Lee, Terry and Crawford won't go 0 for the game again. Also, the offensive problem wasn't just the bench.

The starters were pretty terrible offensively in the 2nd half too. KG needs to post up more and establish and inside out game. Dribble penetration to space the outside and allow kick outs to Bass and Bradley have to happen as well. We have to have our starters be aggressive going to the basket to create contact, get to the line and get Knicks in foul trouble.

Well Crawford didn't even take a shot, so there's that.

I mean, there's things you could try. And I think should've been tried in the regular season. A line up with KG, Wilcox, Paul, Lee, AB or KG, CW, JG, PP, AB -- Then you have either JG or BB on the bench. JET needs more pick and rolls, less spot up shots. CLee I think actually needs the spot up shots -- JET and Lee's offensive schemes need to be switched. Crawford gonna Crawford.

I'm not advocating changing the lineups though. Just saying.

[krook]

only thing I slightly agree with is that JG on the bench was great. The 2nd unit, even when Rondo was in, dominated games to me with their free-ish kind of play. Granted we also had a Leandro Barbosa.

I'm really thinking if we had LB back with JET, JG plays his 40-45min/game, use a big that runs the floor well like a Wilcox, we'd be in a better place. No matter what you're doing, you have to respect LB and JET and JG, someone would be wide open.

Right now it's a streaky J. Craw, JET and a streaky Lee. Nothing to really invoke a bunch of fear.

Well who left on the Celtic team is going to invoke a bunch of fear?

Putting Green, Bass and Bradley on the bench cripples the starting lineup and means your bench players are going to have to come in and make up double digit leads.

I say leave it the way it was. Lee, Terry and Crawford won't go 0 for the game again. Also, the offensive problem wasn't just the bench.

The starters were pretty terrible offensively in the 2nd half too. KG needs to post up more and establish and inside out game. Dribble penetration to space the outside and allow kick outs to Bass and Bradley have to happen as well. We have to have our starters be aggressive going to the basket to create contact, get to the line and get Knicks in foul trouble.

these is where i need help from kg
shavlik randolph who can spread floor and rebounds
7'1 guarding a 6'11 kg contesting his shots, if kg keeps on missing shavlik will do the job

[syfy9]

Jeff Green played 45 minutes last game. He did play with the 2nd unit and was playing alongside other bench players.

[nickagneta]

only thing I slightly agree with is that JG on the bench was great. The 2nd unit, even when Rondo was in, dominated games to me with their free-ish kind of play. Granted we also had a Leandro Barbosa.

I'm really thinking if we had LB back with JET, JG plays his 40-45min/game, use a big that runs the floor well like a Wilcox, we'd be in a better place. No matter what you're doing, you have to respect LB and JET and JG, someone would be wide open.

Right now it's a streaky J. Craw, JET and a streaky Lee. Nothing to really invoke a bunch of fear.

Well who left on the Celtic team is going to invoke a bunch of fear?

Putting Green, Bass and Bradley on the bench cripples the starting lineup and means your bench players are going to have to come in and make up double digit leads.

I say leave it the way it was. Lee, Terry and Crawford won't go 0 for the game again. Also, the offensive problem wasn't just the bench.

The starters were pretty terrible offensively in the 2nd half too. KG needs to post up more and establish and inside out game. Dribble penetration to space the outside and allow kick outs to Bass and Bradley have to happen as well. We have to have our starters be aggressive going to the basket to create contact, get to the line and get Knicks in foul trouble.

these is where i need help from kg
shavlik randolph who can spread floor and rebounds
7'1 guarding a 6'11 kg contesting his shots, if kg keeps on missing shavlik will do the job

I have now heard it all.

If Kevin Granett can't get the job done then put in Shavlick Randolph because he will.

Wow.

I seriously question your ability to judge talent and coach a team on any level. That might be one of the, well, not most informed opinions I ever read here.

[BballTim]

Jeff Green played 45 minutes last game. He did play with the 2nd unit and was playing alongside other bench players.

  That's what people don't seem to get. There is no bench unit in the playoffs unless we're way behind, way ahead, or a couple of bench players get extended minutes by playing much better than usual.

[CelticConcourse]

Green and Bass will decide this series. Period.