Likely Offseason Targets for Jeff Green Trade

[nickagneta]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

[mr. dee]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green. If Pierce and KG decides to keep playing, a lineup of RR-AB-JG-JS-KG would be a good defensive squad while Pierce coming off the bench as an instant offense.

[CoachBo]

Trading Green for a guy with no perimeter game to add to our nice collection of same?

Uh, no. I'll pass, thanks.

[nickagneta]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green.

That doesn't happen unless you trade Pierce and Pierce isn't going to Atlanta.

Also, just because Green is more efficient scoring doesn't make him more versatile, which is what the conversation was about.

Personally, I wouldn't trade Green for Smith. Now trade Green for Milsap or Gasol or Gortat or some other very good to great front court player that can give this team some post scoring presence and defense, that I would do. I would love to see the C's send Terry and Green to LA with the China 3 for Pau Gasol for one year.

Gasol/Garnett/Melo
Sullinger/Bass
Pierce/Free Agent or 1st round pick
Bradley/Lee/Crawford
Rondo/Free agnet or 1st round pick

Go for the one last shot at the title with a crew like that and then wipe gobs of salary off the roster the following year and start from scratch with a young core of Rondo/Bradley/Lee/Crawford/Sully/Melo/2013 1st rounder/2014 1st rounder and a bunch of cap space.

[Monkhouse]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green.

That doesn't happen unless you trade Pierce and Pierce isn't going to Atlanta.

Also, just because Green is more efficient scoring doesn't make him more versatile, which is what the conversation was about.

Personally, I wouldn't trade Green for Smith. Now trade Green for Milsap or Gasol or Gortat or some other very good to great front court player that can give this team some post scoring presence and defense, that I would do. I would love to see the C's send Terry and Green to LA with the China 3 for Pau Gasol for one year.

Gasol/Garnett/Melo
Sullinger/Bass
Pierce/Free Agent or 1st round pick
Bradley/Lee/Crawford
Rondo/Free agnet or 1st round pick

Go for the one last shot at the title with a crew like that and then wipe gobs of salary off the roster the following year and start from scratch with a young core of Rondo/Bradley/Lee/Crawford/Sully/Melo/2013 1st rounder/2014 1st rounder and a bunch of cap space.

I doubt that would even be effective...

Honestly, we should try to free as much as cap space, trade Terry, and Bass.

Go for Josh Smith as our PF, and try to get a nice center that has been a backup, that would like to play a higher role of transition into a starter.

Guys who have something to prove, usually hustle and work a lot more harder.

[kozlodoev]

All in all, I'd say Smith is a more versatile defender, but Green offers much more offense that Smith does.

This pretty much sums up the difference between the two.

I'd also add that the difference between Smith's defense and Green's is greater than the difference between Green's offense and Smith's.

Smith is the better player.  Whether Smith is $5m+ better is a different story, however.  That, I'm not sold on.

I can't agree with the defensive versatility claim. At worst, they're about equal: even if we accept that both can guard both type of forwards equally well (that's a reach for Smith, I think), Green is at least as good in covering SGs as Smith is in covering Cs (we put Green on Shumpert for stretches in Game 4, and he did just fine).

[bfrombleacher]

4 games in the playoffs without a point guard. This team looks like a bunch of headless chickens (even after game 4) but one of the lone bright spots in the first 3 games that I've overlooked: Jeff Green.

Jeff Green is 20 points 5 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Thanks to his game 2 .271, his FG% kinda sucks at .431. Discounting that game gives about .471 FG%.

For the regular season he's averaging .467, including his early season stinkers and amidst a torrid of issues with the team. Takes 2 3's a game hits half of them.

His raw numbers are insanely good and, as mentioned before, he doesn't heal completely until next season.

[chambers]

Avery Bradley
Jeff Green
Fab Melo
Jarred Sullinger

for DeMarcus Cousins.

[nickagneta]

4 games in the playoffs without a point guard. This team looks like a bunch of headless chickens (even after game 4) but one of the lone bright spots in the first 3 games that I've overlooked: Jeff Green.

Jeff Green is 20 points 5 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Thanks to his game 2 .271, his FG% kinda sucks at .431. Discounting that game gives about .471 FG%.

For the regular season he's averaging .467, including his early season stinkers and amidst a torrid of issues with the team. Takes 2 3's a game hits half of them.

His raw numbers are insanely good and, as mentioned before, he doesn't heal completely until next season.

Except for the first half of game 1 and game 4 Jeff Green has been about as big a non factor as one can be. Melo clamped down on Green in the second half of game 1 and didn't let up on him until game 3 was way out of range and the series over. Then Green started putting up numbers again.

Green is a put up numbers guy. He is not aggressive by nature and his game when on has to be forced out of him which eventually means he will disappear again and again, which has been his SOP since he entered the league.

I don't want that type of player on this team. Trade him, Bass and the China 3 for Pau Gasol.

[Who]

4 games in the playoffs without a point guard. This team looks like a bunch of headless chickens (even after game 4) but one of the lone bright spots in the first 3 games that I've overlooked: Jeff Green.

Jeff Green is 20 points 5 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Thanks to his game 2 .271, his FG% kinda sucks at .431. Discounting that game gives about .471 FG%.

For the regular season he's averaging .467, including his early season stinkers and amidst a torrid of issues with the team. Takes 2 3's a game hits half of them.

His raw numbers are insanely good and, as mentioned before, he doesn't heal completely until next season.

Except for the first half of game 1 and game 4 Jeff Green has been about as big a non factor as one can be. Melo clamped down on Green in the second half of game 1 and didn't let up on him until game 3 was way out of range and the series over. Then Green started putting up numbers again.

Green is a put up numbers guy. He is not aggressive by nature and his game when on has to be forced out of him which eventually means he will disappear again and again, which has been his SOP since he entered the league.

I don't want that type of player on this team. Trade him, Bass and the China 3 for Pau Gasol.

I completely agree.

Jeff Green's playoff tourney is just further confirmation of his flaws. Not a guy I want this team to be depending on to be one of the leaders of this team in years to come.

[td25er]

Thunder fan.  What would you guys think of Green back to OKC for Perkins, Lamb/Jones, and maybe our 1st round draft pick?  Maybe add one of your scrubs to even out salaries.

[moiso]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green. If Pierce and KG decides to keep playing, a lineup of RR-AB-JG-JS-KG would be a good defensive squad while Pierce coming off the bench as an instant offense.

Jeff Green's career field goal percentage is .449%.  Josh Smith's is .465%.  I'm not sure how that translates into Green being more efficient.

[AB_Celtic]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green. If Pierce and KG decides to keep playing, a lineup of RR-AB-JG-JS-KG would be a good defensive squad while Pierce coming off the bench as an instant offense.

Jeff Green's career field goal percentage is .449%.  Josh Smith's is .465%.  I'm not sure how that translates into Green being more efficient.

Green's TS% this season was .561. Smith's was .501.

[bfrombleacher]

Smith is also a better passer and rebounder than Green. Those are skills that make him more versatile, IMHO.

But Jeff Green is much more efficient scorer. If we don't have any scoring options once Pierce retire, we should embrace mediocrity for years to come.

IF possible, I'd like to get Smith without trading Green. If Pierce and KG decides to keep playing, a lineup of RR-AB-JG-JS-KG would be a good defensive squad while Pierce coming off the bench as an instant offense.

Jeff Green's career field goal percentage is .449%.  Josh Smith's is .465%.  I'm not sure how that translates into Green being more efficient.

Green's TS% this season was .561. Smith's was .501.

That's including the first half of JG's season.

When the new Jeff Green is in the groove, he can explode, getting at rim attempts and scoring at a ridiculous clip.

[connor]

Thunder fan.  What would you guys think of Green back to OKC for Perkins, Lamb/Jones, and maybe our 1st round draft pick?  Maybe add one of your scrubs to even out salaries.

Really depends on whether or not we are blowing it up or not next year and also on which pick you mean: is it the Thunder's actual 2013 pick or the Raptors' 2013 pick?

If KG and PP are coming back and its the Raptor's pick I'd probably say yes. Perk solidifies our front court with KG and we get 2 young talents for our rebuilding once KG and PP retire.

If we are blowing it up and trading Green I'd rather try and package him with one of our young guys (Bradley/Sully) and take a run at a future building block Center like Cousins rather than bringing back Perk.