seeing the game again yesterday, Mcgary def had a good game. But it was against a team who plays small ball with no threatning inside presence. Mcgary should of scored 30 points, but couldn't bc he has no post game.
All tourney Mcgary hasn't really faced a good pf/c. And i think if he did, especially ones that are more athletic,
quick, he would struggle.
Again if we get him, and he is considered a future piece, how will Sully and Mcgary coexist on the court?? We will prob get beaten up pretty good against small ball
I know you don't draft based on needs vs bpa, but i'd rather draft a bpa non big vs mcgary.
What? What game did you watch exactly?
FYI, Syracuse plays a zone, and probably the best zone in the entire nation. You can't post up against even an average zone, much less the best zone in the NCAA. You can't dock McGary for not trying to post up against a zone.
Small ball also isn't that big of a negative factor when you are playing a zone because there are no match-ups that the other team can exploit.
Ask any knowledgeable basketball fan and they will tell you that the best way to beat a zone is to move the ball quickly and effectively. You can't force shots up against 3 other players; the best thing to do is to kick it out to your open teammate. McGary did that very very well (6 assists). He helped in the defeating of the zone by Michigan, something that Tyler Zeller and a lot of other notable big men were not able to do.
Are you saying that small ball is effective? And that you'd rather play small ball than mean, rebounding-oriented scrapper ball?
Personally, I'd rather have the flexibility to do both and not be confined to one or the other. We don't really have another big that has the scrapper signature skill, so getting one in McGary would be ideal.
Against zone defense you can very well play post up basketball. Thats how at times the celtics have been getting killed this year. You get it to the guy at the post, who is good at the post, then he will score on his own a few times or if he feels a double team will pass it out for a three or pass it to the cutter to the basket.
Mcgary was at times left standing alone under the basket, and wasn't covered very tightly. He did demand the ball down low at times but never got a pass. It's because he doesn't have much post skills. Like many have said, he is a david lee without post skills and without as good as jump shot.
I can't say small bball is more effective, but just know in the new nba, teams without a dominating center for the last few years have won the crown. Even OKC last year some argue were more effective witout Perk and having Ibaka as the sole interior presence. It's about speed, able to guard multiple positions, ability to make the jump shot. There are very few big guys who have the skills or fundementals to dominate down low like a Tim Duncan.
I won't be against grabbing Mcgary but having both him and sully up front, could be too much lack of speed on the court. I rather draft Roberson
No, you can't play post up basketball against a zone defense. It's like how you can't do an isolation against a zone defense - you can try, but you're playing 1 on 5 with at least 1 or 2 open teammates. Besides, you are going to have a man in front of you and a man behind you if you are trying to post up either down low or up top.
When I was watching the game I seldom saw a guy on Michigan with his back to the basket. It just wasn't McGary. Just because his teammates aren't complete idiots who'd feed a guy down low against a zone doesn't mean McGary doesn't have a post up game. If Hakeem and McHale were constantly getting denied all game and weren't able to post up at all, would you say their post game was bad because their teammates/coach didn't trust him to operate down low?
Everyone knows how to beat the zone - pass, pass, pass. Michigan passed it to McGary in the high post a lot, and the Syracuse defense then collapsed on him. He kicked it out to open 3 point shooters, and that was the key to them winning the game.
And "over the last few years"? Don't you mean just last year? Last year's Miami Heat were the only team I recall playing small ball basketball and winning the title. And they had the best player on the planet as their stretch 4, who, if he wanted, could average 10+ rpg easily.
Nope, the Mavericks with Chandler and Dirk, the Lakers with Pau and Bynum, the Celtics with KG and Perk, the Spurs with Duncan and Oberto/Horry/Elson, and basically almost every other team in NBA history that won the title did
not play small ball. It was just the Heat, and you know, the top 3 best combination of players in the league with Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.