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Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« on: March 26, 2013, 09:31:28 PM »

Offline cman88

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I like most of ainges moves this offseason/season...but the C's had huge needs for front court help and..this guy was sitting out there for the taking.

he is averaging something like 12ppg starting for the knicks while we have DJ white keeping the end of the bench warm

was it attitude issues? because I think a lockerroom with KG/pierce could keep him in line


Re: Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2013, 09:33:48 PM »

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Re: Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2013, 09:39:22 PM »

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its called doc rivers

Re: Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2013, 09:44:20 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2013, 09:51:29 PM »

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Re: Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2013, 09:51:59 PM »

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He certainly did his job tonight while Ainge's "ingenious" mid-season pick-ups like Williams and Crawford made as*es of themselves.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2013, 09:57:39 PM »

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Re: Ainge really Whiffed on K-mart
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2013, 10:01:59 PM »

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I'm curious to know why people think he even wanted to come here.  KMart could have quite easily just not have been interested, and was willing wait for a better team to come calling.

If I was an FA in his position, I would have chosen the Knicks over the C's too.

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 10:08:36 PM »

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I can understand passing on a 35-year-old who has had microfracture surgery on both knees and whose Chinese basketball team wanted to outright cut him if their league hadn't pressured the team, leading to that weird buyout and refusal to grant a letter of clearance.

So, he was basically an old, injury-prone big coming off a season where he was cut from a Chinese team in all but name and proceeded to shoot 44.1% from the field and 37.0% from the free throw line with a 11.5% total rebounding percentage (or pretty much rebounding exactly what Brandon Bass has been doing the past two seasons).  He reportedly tried to start a locker room revolt against Vinny del Negro during his time with the Clippers.

Kenyon Martin was averaging 14 points and 7 rebounds per game in a league where DJ White was averaging 21 and 10 and Shavlik Randoloph 32 and 14.

Given all that, he sounds like a huge ball of risk that you can't blame a team for not being interested in.

He was also said to have been insisting on more than the minimum salary when the season started.  In Ainge's place, I probably would have asked him to sign a minimum, partially guaranteed contract.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 10:09:58 PM »

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I'm curious to know why people think he even wanted to come here.  KMart could have quite easily just not have been interested, and was willing wait for a better team to come calling.

If I was an FA in his position, I would have chosen the Knicks over the C's too.

At one point Kmart was pretty desperate to sign with an NBA team, he would have certainly come here. Heck, he would have signed with the bobcats if they would have asked him.

I got the impression from Ainge and Doc that some of the celtics core players didn't want him here though. I may be wrong, but I think that's the biggest reason we didn't sign him.

If he was such a hot big man commodity, why didn't the Heat sign him instead of Birdman?

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 10:27:20 PM »

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Nah, hes washed up and his attitude would have single handedly brought down this whole team like dynamite......Completely ignore what's actually happening right now with him and the knicks so this will make sense to you..

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 10:28:15 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 10:50:02 PM »

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I got the impression from Ainge and Doc that some of the celtics core players didn't want him here though. I may be wrong, but I think that's the biggest reason we didn't sign him.

I would strongly suspect Garnett.  Keep in mind that Garnett is good friends with Chauncey Billups and Billups was the guy credited with stopping Kenyon Martin's attempted locker room revolt against Vinny Del Negro.  The Clippers didn't want K-Mart back and Martin seems kind of bitter towards the Clippers.

I would guess that Garnett is privy to some gossip about how Martin acted in the locker room and would make his opinion known if he heard some things he didn't like.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 11:00:02 PM »

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Nah, hes washed up and his attitude would have single handedly brought down this whole team like dynamite......Completely ignore what's actually happening right now with him and the knicks so this will make sense to you..

Jason Terry looks like he's washed up too. And I rather deal with attitude problems in the locker than dealing with this 5 game losing streak because of bad basketball, and not just this but those other multiple losing streaks we've had this season.


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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 11:13:09 PM »

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I said when the knicks signed him that Ainge was gonna regret it.  Had we signed Kmart, Birdman or even Admunson and DWest I would be much more optimistic going into the playoffs "light". As I stated in another thread I started, this team is DONE! We sign two scrubs, a never was in TWill and The Mad Chucker...(Chuckie is what I call him).  Yet there are those here who believe we can challenge Miami! ahahahahahahahahahahaha....wow! That felt good. A good laugh when I feel like crying always helps!
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