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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 07:23:03 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 07:29:53 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)
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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2013, 07:41:19 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2013, 07:47:17 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)
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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2013, 07:49:05 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)

Yea, and how likely is that? Almost zero.

How likely is it that Pierce and KG are tired if we reach the ECF's and have trouble keeping up with the Heat? Almost 100%.

If your strategy is to hope Lebron or Wade get injured, then you've already lost.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2013, 07:58:19 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)

Yea, and how likely is that? Almost zero.

How likely is it that Pierce and KG are tired if we reach the ECF's and have trouble keeping up with the Heat? Almost 100%.

If your strategy is to hope Lebron or Wade get injured, then you've already lost.

Well, what if we go on a run? It's possible we bond even more during the playoffs with a sweep of our round-1 opponent or something. Then, we get days of rest and PP/KG won't be as tired, and we've already beaten a team. I feel like if we beat two teams before we play Miami, it's better than playing Miami first or second.

We can get some momentum, some morale boosts and who knows? As much as hate to say it, Wade and LeBron could get injured/tired too. And their role players.

Aren't we younger than them?
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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2013, 08:04:47 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)

Yea, and how likely is that? Almost zero.

How likely is it that Pierce and KG are tired if we reach the ECF's and have trouble keeping up with the Heat? Almost 100%.

If your strategy is to hope Lebron or Wade get injured, then you've already lost.

Well, what if we go on a run? It's possible we bond even more during the playoffs with a sweep of our round-1 opponent or something. Then, we get days of rest and PP/KG won't be as tired, and we've already beaten a team. I feel like if we beat two teams before we play Miami, it's better than playing Miami first or second.

We can get some momentum, some morale boosts and who knows? As much as hate to say it, Wade and LeBron could get injured/tired too. And their role players.

Aren't we younger than them?

Our team success is based fully on KG and Pierce at this point, who are both significantly older than any of Miami's key players.

You can say what you want about Bradley, Lee, Green, etc being important, and young, but with no Rondo and Sully, if Pierce or KG go down or are at half speed vs Miami we get swept, Period.

If we haven't bonded enough by the time we hit the playoffs, then it's not going to happen. As for going on some run where we sweep a team, it's highly unlikely, more likely we lose in round 1 or 2. Even if we did somehow sweep the Knicks or Pacers for example, doing so will still take a lot out of KG and Pierce, and the Heat are likely to end their series quickly either way so we don't gain anything, we still come in limping.

The whole idea is to have Pierce and KG at as close to top performance as they are going to get this year when we play Miami, so round 1 would make the most sense.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2013, 08:07:27 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)

Yea, and how likely is that? Almost zero.

How likely is it that Pierce and KG are tired if we reach the ECF's and have trouble keeping up with the Heat? Almost 100%.

If your strategy is to hope Lebron or Wade get injured, then you've already lost.

Well, what if we go on a run? It's possible we bond even more during the playoffs with a sweep of our round-1 opponent or something. Then, we get days of rest and PP/KG won't be as tired, and we've already beaten a team. I feel like if we beat two teams before we play Miami, it's better than playing Miami first or second.

We can get some momentum, some morale boosts and who knows? As much as hate to say it, Wade and LeBron could get injured/tired too. And their role players.

Aren't we younger than them?

Our team success is based fully on KG and Pierce at this point, who are both significantly older than any of Miami's key players.

If we haven't bonded enough by the time we hit the playoffs, then it's not going to happen. As for going on some run where we sweep a team, it's highly unlikely, more likely we lose in round 1 or 2. Even if we did somehow sweep the Knicks or Pacers for example, doing so will still take a lot out of KG and Pierce, and the Heat are likely to end their series quickly either way so we don't gain anything, we still come in limping.

The whole idea is to have Pierce and KG at as close to top performance as they are going to get this year when we play Miami, so round 1 would make the most sense.

Say we do beat the Heat in the first round. Then, wouldn't we be tired for the second-round matchups with 4-5 and then the ECF matchup with 2-3 (and then the matchup in the Finals)? We'd lose anyways, since "KG and PP would be tired."

I guess it's impossible to win this year, in your opinion? Then, it doesn't really even matter if we make the playoffs.
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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2013, 08:10:03 PM »

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2nd and 3rd are both realistic, but 4th or 5th would really suck. (If we had to have 4th or 5th, we'd better get HCA)

Why would 4 or 5 suck?

I think he means that 4/5 gives you the Heat in the 2nd round while 2/3 we'd meet the Heat in the ECF (if we get there).  Also, of course, greater chance for Heat to get tripped up in an early round before us.

Even greater chance of us getting injured and tired as hell.

Just providing the reasoning for why one would prefer the 2/3 than the 4/5.   No assurances either way, but my guess is most would rather face them later than sooner -- if only to give us a better chance for a longer run.

I'm not a fan of that school of thought.

Why not play them while our guys are relatively fresh?  Sure, Miami's guys will be fresh, too, but I don't want to watch them run us off the floor, making us look 60 years old.

If we're gonna watch the Celtics one last time and we're gonna watch them play the Heat eventually, I'd like to squeeze three series out of them than just 2 :) Hopefully, it gets to 4 though (or even better, one more season!)

If we want to go to the finals, we have to beat the Heat, so we may as well play them in round 1 while we are healthy and rested. Each round will take something significant out of us, and not really phase Miami, so the earlier the better.

The only people who should care about how many playoff series we squeeze out of this team this year should be the owners. I care about giving us our best shot at beating the heat. If we do that, then the rest will follow.

Watch as we play them in round 1, and then we lose, and then LeBron tears his ACL in round 2. That would suck, eh? (no offense to LeBron)

Yea, and how likely is that? Almost zero.

How likely is it that Pierce and KG are tired if we reach the ECF's and have trouble keeping up with the Heat? Almost 100%.

If your strategy is to hope Lebron or Wade get injured, then you've already lost.

Well, what if we go on a run? It's possible we bond even more during the playoffs with a sweep of our round-1 opponent or something. Then, we get days of rest and PP/KG won't be as tired, and we've already beaten a team. I feel like if we beat two teams before we play Miami, it's better than playing Miami first or second.

We can get some momentum, some morale boosts and who knows? As much as hate to say it, Wade and LeBron could get injured/tired too. And their role players.

Aren't we younger than them?

Our team success is based fully on KG and Pierce at this point, who are both significantly older than any of Miami's key players.

If we haven't bonded enough by the time we hit the playoffs, then it's not going to happen. As for going on some run where we sweep a team, it's highly unlikely, more likely we lose in round 1 or 2. Even if we did somehow sweep the Knicks or Pacers for example, doing so will still take a lot out of KG and Pierce, and the Heat are likely to end their series quickly either way so we don't gain anything, we still come in limping.

The whole idea is to have Pierce and KG at as close to top performance as they are going to get this year when we play Miami, so round 1 would make the most sense.

Say we do beat the Heat in the first round. Then, wouldn't we be tired for the second-round matchups with 4-5 and then 2-3? We'd lose anyways, since "KG and PP would be tired."

I guess it's impossible to win this year, in your opinion?

We would be playing significantly weaker teams which we could beat while resting KG and Pierce a little, or with a tired Pierce and KG, but we'd need to rest them a bit before the finals.

It's tough, but with no Rondo and no Sully, we need KG and Pierce at top levels if we want any chance of beating Miami, or any WC team in the Finals.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 10:14:43 PM »

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It is and we can get it but personally i hope we don't.  We could really use a nice draft pick for 2013.

As long as we don't face Miami in the first round i'm happy. But honestly it won't matter when we face them, eventually you will have to. I know winning it all is #1 priority but beatin Miami is just as important to get there anyways

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 10:24:00 PM »

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Sure is...why not go for it?

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 10:40:41 PM »

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We are closer to a 3rd after today b/c Brooklyn and NYK lost!
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Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2013, 10:47:02 PM »

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We are closer to a 3rd after today b/c Brooklyn and NYK lost!

Unfortunately ATL won.

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2013, 11:52:37 PM »

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Heck yes it is within reach. But so is the Seven seed if we keep falling on our faces to teams we should not lose to.
The beatings will continue until morale improves

Re: Is the second seed within reach?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2013, 11:55:51 PM »

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We are closer to a 3rd after today b/c Brooklyn and NYK lost!

Unfortunately ATL won.

I'm sure we end with a better record than ATL by end of season.
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