Pierce sitting tonight, Green likely to get start

[kozlodoev]

Didn't see the game. Not surprised Jeff green went into his disappearing act. He's been thriving over the last couple months as a role playing bench player but clearly, without someone to facilitate the offense, he is lost because he can't do it.

Yeah, especially clear in that game he started instead of Pierce last month. Or when Rondo was "facilitating" for him.

Green's best games come when he has the ball in his hands and works his defender aggressively. The consistency in doing the latter has been an issue, so far.

Big difference between finding his own shot, creating his own shot, and being an offensive facilitator. I would have figured you would know the difference koz.

As a role playing bench player, green can look to create his own shot or look to establish his own shot. That's his role. Score off the bench.

But to take over for Pierce when Rondo is gone and facilitate an entire offense, getting others involved and making sure the offense runs efficiently through you, Green can't do that. Its beyond his capabilities.

I understand the difference, I guess I'm saying that just because you stick him in in Pierce's spot doesn't mean he should play like Pierce.

Green is able and should dominate games offensively simply by finding good shots, as he often has either a speed or a size mismatch. Even more so against the Bobcats, who are fielding a lineup of career role-players/backups.

Of course, trying to have him be a point forward is a recipe for disaster, and is not going to work. I fully expected Garnett to do more of the facilitating and Green to do more of the scoring with Pierce out, but the game didn't turn out this way.

[MVPPierceNoJoke]

Didn't see the game. Not surprised Jeff green went into his disappearing act. He's been thriving over the last couple months as a role playing bench player but clearly, without someone to facilitate the offense, he is lost because he can't do it.

Yeah, especially clear in that game he started instead of Pierce last month. Or when Rondo was "facilitating" for him.

Green's best games come when he has the ball in his hands and works his defender aggressively. The consistency in doing the latter has been an issue, so far.

Big difference between finding his own shot, creating his own shot, and being an offensive facilitator. I would have figured you would know the difference koz.

As a role playing bench player, green can look to create his own shot or look to establish his own shot. That's his role. Score off the bench.

But to take over for Pierce when Rondo is gone and facilitate an entire offense, getting others involved and making sure the offense runs efficiently through you, Green can't do that. Its beyond his capabilities.

The last paragraph is what stands out the mot to me.  How the heck is Jeff Green supposed to be the "future" if he can't do this?  Yet some people keep trying to sell this narrative.

The point is, he isn't the "future" of anything.  Pierce will be gone shortly, and then what?

One can only hope that Rondo takes his game to another level

[kgainez]

Not sure what everyone is so fired up about.  Jeff Green put up similar numbers to what he always does.  14 points (average) on 4-11 shooting (slightly below average) in 30 minutes (average).  The idea that he would do more because PP was out just isn't really there.  30 minutes? 

He didn't get more minutes than he usually does and was just slightly less efficient than he usually is.  He is a great player within the offense but will never be THE offense.  He isn't a guy that just tries to "get his" in 1-on-1 battles.

Garnett was very cold (2-10) and Pierce wasn't playing.  Tough to win when that happens. 

I completely expect Jeff Green to "bounce back" by going something like 16 point on 6-11 shooting in win and everyone praising him for it.

I also don't get the line of thinking.
in a game that was complete trash for everyone.
but you people love stats, so you'd like him to post a triple double in a 26 pt loss to the bobcats
my biggest issue was his 1 assist. But JG was the ONLY one being aggressive...see 8 fta.

[kgainez]

Didn't see the game. Not surprised Jeff green went into his disappearing act. He's been thriving over the last couple months as a role playing bench player but clearly, without someone to facilitate the offense, he is lost because he can't do it.

Yeah, especially clear in that game he started instead of Pierce last month. Or when Rondo was "facilitating" for him.

Green's best games come when he has the ball in his hands and works his defender aggressively. The consistency in doing the latter has been an issue, so far.

Big difference between finding his own shot, creating his own shot, and being an offensive facilitator. I would have figured you would know the difference koz.

As a role playing bench player, green can look to create his own shot or look to establish his own shot. That's his role. Score off the bench.

But to take over for Pierce when Rondo is gone and facilitate an entire offense, getting others involved and making sure the offense runs efficiently through you, Green can't do that. Its beyond his capabilities.

The last paragraph is what stands out the mot to me.  How the heck is Jeff Green supposed to be the "future" if he can't do this?  Yet some people keep trying to sell this narrative.

The point is, he isn't the "future" of anything.  Pierce will be gone shortly, and then what?

he's a completely different player than PP
I continue to say, once everyone stops comparing him to Paul Pierce, you all will enjoy life a little more.
you can build around what you have.
and my do we forget that when Rondo was in JG was a part of 4/5 top lineups, while PP was only in 2.
one game that sucked balls for EVERYONE!!

[nickagneta]

Didn't see the game. Not surprised Jeff green went into his disappearing act. He's been thriving over the last couple months as a role playing bench player but clearly, without someone to facilitate the offense, he is lost because he can't do it.

Yeah, especially clear in that game he started instead of Pierce last month. Or when Rondo was "facilitating" for him.

Green's best games come when he has the ball in his hands and works his defender aggressively. The consistency in doing the latter has been an issue, so far.

Big difference between finding his own shot, creating his own shot, and being an offensive facilitator. I would have figured you would know the difference koz.

As a role playing bench player, green can look to create his own shot or look to establish his own shot. That's his role. Score off the bench.

But to take over for Pierce when Rondo is gone and facilitate an entire offense, getting others involved and making sure the offense runs efficiently through you, Green can't do that. Its beyond his capabilities.

I understand the difference, I guess I'm saying that just because you stick him in in Pierce's spot doesn't mean he should play like Pierce.

Green is able and should dominate games offensively simply by finding good shots, as he often has either a speed or a size mismatch. Even more so against the Bobcats, who are fielding a lineup of career role-players/backups.

Of course, trying to have him be a point forward is a recipe for disaster, and is not going to work. I fully expected Garnett to do more of the facilitating and Green to do more of the scoring with Pierce out, but the game didn't turn out this way.

And what I was saying in my original post is I am not surprised by what happened with Green last night because he ISN'T Paul Pierce. He's not a facilitator like Pierce. Green can and does look for his and can create his own offense. He just can not do it for others.

And there is nothing wrong with that. Green can be an integral part of this team going forward but he is never going to be Pierce. He's not as good as Pierce nor does he have the same skill set or mind set. He's just going to have to play a role because he isn't someone you start building around, he's just a good piece to add to the equation.

[jambr380]

Didn't see the game. Not surprised Jeff green went into his disappearing act. He's been thriving over the last couple months as a role playing bench player but clearly, without someone to facilitate the offense, he is lost because he can't do it.

Yeah, especially clear in that game he started instead of Pierce last month. Or when Rondo was "facilitating" for him.

Green's best games come when he has the ball in his hands and works his defender aggressively. The consistency in doing the latter has been an issue, so far.

Big difference between finding his own shot, creating his own shot, and being an offensive facilitator. I would have figured you would know the difference koz.

As a role playing bench player, green can look to create his own shot or look to establish his own shot. That's his role. Score off the bench.

But to take over for Pierce when Rondo is gone and facilitate an entire offense, getting others involved and making sure the offense runs efficiently through you, Green can't do that. Its beyond his capabilities.

The last paragraph is what stands out the mot to me.  How the heck is Jeff Green supposed to be the "future" if he can't do this?  Yet some people keep trying to sell this narrative.

The point is, he isn't the "future" of anything.  Pierce will be gone shortly, and then what?

he's a completely different player than PP
I continue to say, once everyone stops comparing him to Paul Pierce, you all will enjoy life a little more.
you can build around what you have.
and my do we forget that when Rondo was in JG was a part of 4/5 top lineups, while PP was only in 2.
one game that sucked balls for EVERYONE!!

TP - I agree. I don't know why anybody thinks Green is supposed to be producing like a 'max' player when he is only being paid like a 4th best player on his own team [and part of that contract was based on potential in what he will do in future years]. I am all for Green being amazing, but I certainly don't expect it.

[Bankshot]

I hate to say this, but no more rest for the Captain until the final few games, when the games don't matter anymore.  Sorry Paul, but we need you.