The Celtics should consider Andre Roberson this year

[Tr1boy]

Roberson apparently is weighing his options and seeing if he would land in the 1st round if he declared. 

I would be ultra tempted tp pick him up, even with the 16-19th pick. It might be a reach bc of his so so offensive game, but he would help us be one of the best defensive teams in the league, shore up rebounding and make it a little easier to lose kg.

I'm not stating he can do half the things kg can, but he can do alot of things Faried can. And i think every celtics fan would love to have a faried on the team.  Doc would like him since, he can play small ball without sacraficing rebounding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omq-YhH-f1o

Ridiculous vertical

[Tr1boy]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/4/28/4279590/andre-roberson-nba-draft-2013-status-colorado

What do you guys think??

only 6'7, but will outjump many many 7 ft centers to grab rebounds. Great instinct, but not the best technique (Rodman). But bottom line is, gets the job done and grabs lots of rebounds

Offensively has as good as game as Kenneth Faried. Near non existant skills, except occasional drive and monster slams. Shooting is inconsistent at best like AB.  There is still potential to become better

Then again, motor and defense is exceptional, can guard multiple positions. Kind of sounds like the AB of the forward spot, which is a little undersized, but tenacious and produces results (rebounds instead of steals)

We are dying for rebounding right now. Even with Sully we need more rebounders that will at min just grab defensive rebounds for heavens sake

Would you reach for this athletic phenom at the 1st round spot? or prob not but trade our 16th and make sure to grab him at a later spot + get another pick or asset?

[saltlover]

I'd be surprised if he went in the top 40, much less at 16.  If the C's got a mid-2nd, I'd be okay with him, but no way as a 1st rounder.

[Tr1boy]

I'd be surprised if he went in the top 40, much less at 16.  If the C's got a mid-2nd, I'd be okay with him, but no way as a 1st rounder.

just to ask you, what kind of 2nd round pick has rebounding skills, athletcism and quickness like roberson??

The only one that i can think of is Rodman who was idiotically passed up by 30 teams

Even Faried a few years ago should of gone top 10.

[D.o.s.]

I was super bummed that Faried went to the Nuggets after he almost fell to us (they had the 20th pick, I believe?)

That said, I haven't paid attention to this year's draft class yet. That's for after the playoffs.

[saltlover]

I'd be surprised if he went in the top 40, much less at 16.  If the C's got a mid-2nd, I'd be okay with him, but no way as a 1st rounder.

just to ask you, what kind of 2nd round pick has rebounding skills, athletcism and quickness like roberson??

The only one that i can think of is Rodman who was idiotically passed up by 30 teams

Even Faried a few years ago should of gone top 10.

6'7" will only get you so far in the NBA as a rebounder.  And I know, Dennis Rodman was 6'7", so height isn't everything.  But if you look at rebound percentages instead of gross rebounds, his offensive rebound percentage was 289th in the country, and his defensive rebound percentage was 9th.  Good numbers, especially defensive rebounding, but let's not call him the next Faried, who was first in both offensive and defensive rebounding percentage his senior year, 8th and 1st his junior year, 1st and 3rd his freshman year -- his sophomore slump had him 35th and 12th, which is still better than Roberson.  Rodman and Faried were once in a generation rebounding talents.  Roberson is an athletic, aggressive rebounder, but the numbers just don't compare.  And Roberson shot 36% from the line.  He looks like a fine gamble in the second round, but not someone you want to guarantee about $3.5 mil over two years to.  There are enough players with higher upside or higher floors to choose from.

[jambr380]

I'd be surprised if he went in the top 40, much less at 16.  If the C's got a mid-2nd, I'd be okay with him, but no way as a 1st rounder.

just to ask you, what kind of 2nd round pick has rebounding skills, athletcism and quickness like roberson??

The only one that i can think of is Rodman who was idiotically passed up by 30 teams

Even Faried a few years ago should of gone top 10.

6'7" will only get you so far in the NBA as a rebounder.  And I know, Dennis Rodman was 6'7", so height isn't everything.  But if you look at rebound percentages instead of gross rebounds, his offensive rebound percentage was 289th in the country, and his defensive rebound percentage was 9th.  Good numbers, especially defensive rebounding, but let's not call him the next Faried, who was first in both offensive and defensive rebounding percentage his senior year, 8th and 1st his junior year, 1st and 3rd his freshman year -- his sophomore slump had him 35th and 12th, which is still better than Roberson.  Rodman and Faried were once in a generation rebounding talents.  Roberson is an athletic, aggressive rebounder, but the numbers just don't compare.  And Roberson shot 36% from the line.  He looks like a fine gamble in the second round, but not someone you want to guarantee about $3.5 mil over two years to.  There are enough players with higher upside or higher floors to choose from.

TP for the stats comparison...it sounds as though somebody is going to take Roberson too early this year hoping for another Faried, but may be s little disappointed given the difference in their rebounding percentages. I don't really know who I want at the 16th pick, as someone like Olynyk leaves me less than impressed, but I don't think we should force the issue either.

[Fred Roberts]

Big Buffs fan here. I haven't heard any news all season linking Roberson to first round status. That's why he thought about returning for his senior year. Scouts seem down on his shooting and ball handling, but yes, he can d up and rebound with the best. I think poor mans Shawn Marion is where he may wind up. Hoping for the best and would love him on the Celts .... just not with the 16th pick.

Also, Faried played at Morehead ... who do they play? Not sure you can compare numbers from whatever conference that is with Pac12, even though he did turn out to be a beast.

I think we go Dieng but maybe Danny buys a second rounder??

[saltlover]

Big Buffs fan here. I haven't heard any news all season linking Roberson to first round status. That's why he thought about returning for his senior year. Scouts seem down on his shooting and ball handling, but yes, he can d up and rebound with the best. I think poor mans Shawn Marion is where he may wind up. Hoping for the best and would love him on the Celts .... just not with the 16th pick.

Also, Faried played at Morehead ... who do they play? Not sure you can compare numbers from whatever conference that is with Pac12, even though he did turn out to be a beast.

I think we go Dieng but maybe Danny buys a second rounder??

I hear you on different levels of competition, but if you look at the best seasons for total rebound percentage in the last four years (sadly, college stats are behind pro stats, so four years is as good as we've got), Faried's got the top two slots.  Futhermore, the difference between Faried's second-best season and the best season of anyone else is more than the difference between that #3 season (Brian Zoubek of Duke) and #24 (Terell Parks of Western Illinois.)  Faried was just at a completely different level, and competition can't account for all of it.  His RPG his senior year was the best number since Tim Duncan's senior year.  Roberson is good, but he wasn't Faried in college, and I doubt he'll be Faried in the pros.