Do You Think Jeff Green Can Still Be Better,.. Or Just Trade Him For Josh Smith?

[SHAQATTACK]

Josh Smith needs somebody like Garnet to drive him.   He plays like Rondo, at what ever speed he feels like that night.    Smith would wear out his welcome really fast in Boston without KG to stay on him.

Like Greens attitude better and think he be even better player next year than current.  Green may be one of the few players in the nba with the tools to cover LBJ.

I like Smith, but he needs to be part of a team with at least one player better and more driven than himself.    Smith is not a max contract franchise player IMO.

I would trade Green as part of a deal for DMC . or K Love.

like to see Sully, Green, and DMC

[CelticConcourse]

Give me Jeff at nine mil for three years.

[Celtics4ever]

Keep Jeff.  If PP stays and KG leaves maybe offer him some of KG's salary but I agree KG would be best to motivate him.

[chambers]

 I wouldn't trade Jeff for Josh Smith.
Funny thing is if you asked me 4-5 months ago I probably would.
I'd like Josh to play with Jeff though.
Smoove at PF and Green at SF

Imagine the starting 5 of:

Rondo
Green
Smoove
Sully
KG

With Avery + Bass off the bench.
We somehow dump Courtney Lee and Terry (Maybe Bass too)
Would be great if we could afford Pierce and Smoove and just have Sully off the bench with Avery. Don't think we can get rid of all those sucky contracts though.

[chambers]

Josh Smith needs somebody like Garnet to drive him.   He plays like Rondo, at what ever speed he feels like that night.    Smith would wear out his welcome really fast in Boston without KG to stay on him.

Like Greens attitude better and think he be even better player next year than current.  Green may be one of the few players in the nba with the tools to cover LBJ.

I like Smith, but he needs to be part of a team with at least one player better and more driven than himself.    Smith is not a max contract franchise player IMO.

I would trade Green as part of a deal for DMC . or K Love.

like to see Sully, Green, and DMC

Good points about motivating Smoove. TP
I would move Green + Avery for DMC.
would love to somehow keept Rondo and DMC and Sully.
If we could keep Green, DMC, Rondo and Sully I'd be stoked.

[wdleehi]

I would be perfectly happy moving Green for a strong starting big man, but not Smith because of the contract he would likely be receiving.

[Snakehead]

I think Green could have a really big year next year with this "leap" year under his belt.  His recovery is said to take a year as well, so I do anticipate more consistency.

I have always really liked Josh Smith, but the contract he could get could be an issue.  I do think he gets too much hate from some, as he would be a much better fit off of Rondo in a smaller ball handling/play making role here, but the contract could still be a bit much and there's no denying some level of "bone headed"-ness.

[CelticsFanNC]

  I also think Josh Smith is way over rated among Celtic fans.  He does a lot of things well but nothing consistently and doesn't seem to play smart when it matters most.  He has the physical tools but is a basketball airhead IMO.  If KG were going to be around day in and day out to guide him for the next five years he might be worth the gamble but that isn't the case.

  I don't know if Green will ever be better then he is right now.  Right now he is pretty darn good but still a bit inconsistent.  He should be in better physical condition next season. 

  Smith wants and will get more money then we are paying Green.  He's not worth it.

[Evantime34]

I'm a big Josh Smith guy but I would rather have Jeff Green. Green makes less bone headed plays, takes less bad shots and is going to make a lot less money.

[Fafnir]

I'm a big Josh Smith guy but I would rather have Jeff Green. Green makes less bone headed plays, takes less bad shots and is going to make a lot less money.

I'd rather have the impact shot blocking, rebounding, and other non-scoring contributions.

But giving him the max, blah.

[indeedproceed]

I'm a big Josh Smith guy but I would rather have Jeff Green. Green makes less bone headed plays, takes less bad shots and is going to make a lot less money.

I'd rather have the impact shot blocking, rebounding, and other non-scoring contributions.

But giving him the max, blah.

Yeah, on paper, Smith looks like an obvious 'yes'.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=smithjo03&y1=2013&p2=greenje02&y2=2013

Per-minute, identical scoring, identical FG%, identical FTA's with JG having an edge in 3pt% and FT%, and Josh Smith being better literally everywhere else.

[KGs Knee]

Just out of curiosity, what is the most (dollars) you'd feel comfortable paying Smith on a per season basis?

I don't think max contract levels have yet been set for the 2013-14 season, but I'm assuming the max for Smith (7-9 years service)* will be approx $17m.

Smith is currently being paid $13.2m.

* Max Salary=.3[.4214((X-Y)/30)]; X=Projected BRI, Y=Projected Player Benefits

[indeedproceed]

I think Smith's current contract is very fair. Max contract looks like a 'one of these things is not like the other', even when you factor in all you young bucks who have max extensions (Harden, Ibaka, Westbrook, etc).

[BballTim]

I'm a big Josh Smith guy but I would rather have Jeff Green. Green makes less bone headed plays, takes less bad shots and is going to make a lot less money.

I'd rather have the impact shot blocking, rebounding, and other non-scoring contributions.

But giving him the max, blah.

Yeah, on paper, Smith looks like an obvious 'yes'.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=smithjo03&y1=2013&p2=greenje02&y2=2013

Per-minute, identical scoring, identical FG%, identical FTA's with JG having an edge in 3pt% and FT%, and Josh Smith being better literally everywhere else.

  There's a pretty big difference (12% or so) in TS%, and the turnovers favor Jeff as well. Smith might get the edge, but it's pretty slight.

  Smallish sample size, but if Green keeps playing at his post all-star level next season which player would you say is more likely to be a 2014 all-star? I'd actually go with Green.

[Evantime34]

They seem like they are different players. Green is more of a scoring 3. Smith is more of an athletic, shot blocking, rebounding four.

I think if we had both we could have the makings of a solid team. (assuming KG and Pierce retire/get traded)