If This Is the Jeff Green We're Getting...

[RyNye]

A bit much for a few pre-season games -- much of it against non-starters.

considering jeff green is a non-starter as well, why is that relevant?

It's relevant because of the expectations and history as a player.

jeff is coming off our bench to play against bench players for the most part.

By your logic, we can't talk about James Harden in the same sentence as starting players, because he is coming off the bench, too.

[manl_lui]

In Jeff Green I trust.

btw what are your thoughts with Doc's lineup yesterday

Rondo, Pierce, Jeff, Bass and KG. I kinda like it, but our bench scoring might be a problem if it is just Lee, Terry, Milicic, and Wilcox

[indeedproceed]

A bit much for a few pre-season games -- much of it against non-starters.

considering jeff green is a non-starter as well, why is that relevant?

It's relevant because of the expectations and history as a player.

jeff is coming off our bench to play against bench players for the most part.

By your logic, we can't talk about James Harden in the same sentence as starting players, because he is coming off the bench, too.

Manu Ginobli, Jason Terry, Thad Young...

If you're playing 28 minutes + a night, you're playing more than scrubs. And we paid Jeff Green to play more than scrubs.

[j804]

He has been outstanding but my guess is as soon as the regular season starts we will see him take a step back and be in an early season "slump" although I sure hope not!

I dont think so you'll see more of the same Jeff its all in his attitude, he's comfortable, loves Boston and his coach and teammates. He's got a new appreciation for the game after his incident I think he's going to be a force regardless who is thrown out there.

[MBunge]

A bit much for a few pre-season games -- much of it against non-starters.

considering jeff green is a non-starter as well, why is that relevant?

It's relevant because of the expectations and history as a player.

jeff is coming off our bench to play against bench players for the most part.

By your logic, we can't talk about James Harden in the same sentence as starting players, because he is coming off the bench, too.

Manu Ginobli, Jason Terry, Thad Young...

If you're playing 28 minutes + a night, you're playing more than scrubs. And we paid Jeff Green to play more than scrubs.

I'm not really sure I get this obsession with how Wyc and the other owners spend their money.

Mike

[SHAQATTACK]

I think Jeff maybe just experimenting with his new found health and confidence.  I really don't think he has truley pushed himself and is still doing some rehab to his body and confidence. Jeff did alot of soul searching about this NBA career , where he was and how far he wants to go.

His best games are still ahead of him. 

[kozlodoev]

our bench scoring might be a problem if it is just Lee, Terry, Milicic, and Wilcox

Leandro Barbosa and Jared Sullinger wanted to stop by and say hello.

[GreenShooter]

our bench scoring might be a problem if it is just Lee, Terry, Milicic, and Wilcox

Leandro Barbosa and Jared Sullinger wanted to stop by and say hello.

Milicic not scoring is not a problem since he's not expected to. I know you were just adding him since he's part of the rotation. Barbosa and Sulli on the other hand.........with Lee, JET & Wilcox...someone's bound to be hot vs second stringers.

[GreenShooter]

Jeff Green has looked very impressive. He looks like he'll bring all sorts of problems.....for other teams, be it from the bench, starting or both.

[mmmmm]

Just want to point out so that folks understand when they make their favorite trade proposals:

Jeff Green cannot be traded until after this first year of his contract.   

The reason is subtle.  If he had played under the one-year contract we had signed him to last year, he would have been under no-trade because that was his Bird-rights vesting year.   I believe that the league must have carried that restriction forward in order for us to retain rights to sign him this year, even though it is a multi-year, because now his Bird rights will not vest until the end of this coming season.   This is probably why it took so long to get the language of his contract finished.

So if you want to trade for Josh Smith this year, you'll need to put together a package with other players than Green.

[billysan]

our bench scoring might be a problem if it is just Lee, Terry, Milicic, and Wilcox

Leandro Barbosa and Jared Sullinger wanted to stop by and say hello.

Milicic not scoring is not a problem since he's not expected to. I know you were just adding him since he's part of the rotation. Barbosa and Sulli on the other hand.........with Lee, JET & Wilcox...someone's bound to be hot vs second stringers.

There are Green, Jet, Sullinger, Barbosa and Courtney Lee after Bradley is back who are all highly capable of averaging double figures in scoring even off the bench. I would wager that two of these do average double figures by Christmas.

[Moranis]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Hollinger is a guy who believes deeply in his PER stats, and Jeff Green never really put up the PER to warrant the type of money he got this year. 

As most people have noted, PER does very little to account for defensive contributions, which is really where Green will be big help.

I actually think the Twitter post was something needed around here.  Most of this board is all over Green as the greatest bench player ever, etc. yet when you actually take a step back you realize he is putting up virtually the same numbers he did his last full season when most of this board called him a giant disappointment. 

[kozlodoev]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Hollinger is a guy who believes deeply in his PER stats, and Jeff Green never really put up the PER to warrant the type of money he got this year. 

As most people have noted, PER does very little to account for defensive contributions, which is really where Green will be big help.

I actually think the Twitter post was something needed around here.  Most of this board is all over Green as the greatest bench player ever, etc. yet when you actually take a step back you realize he is putting up virtually the same numbers he did his last full season when most of this board called him a giant disappointment. 

Only someone with an agenda can claim that Jeff Green's first (partial) season with us was anything similar to what we see right now. He shot less than .300 from the three, and fouled at a career-high rate (4 per 36 mins).

[Moranis]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Hollinger is a guy who believes deeply in his PER stats, and Jeff Green never really put up the PER to warrant the type of money he got this year. 

As most people have noted, PER does very little to account for defensive contributions, which is really where Green will be big help.

I actually think the Twitter post was something needed around here.  Most of this board is all over Green as the greatest bench player ever, etc. yet when you actually take a step back you realize he is putting up virtually the same numbers he did his last full season when most of this board called him a giant disappointment. 

Only someone with an agenda can claim that Jeff Green's first (partial) season with us was anything similar to what we see right now. He shot less than .300 from the three, and fouled at a career-high rate (4 per 36 mins).

He shot 44% from three in the post season with Boston.  Yet he was a failure in the post season as well if you ask around this board.

Look I'm glad Jeff Green is seemingly healthy and he will be a good player off the bench for the Celtics this year, but he is essentially the exact same player he has been pretty much every single year he has been in the league, you know except now he has a heart condition. 

[wdleehi]

Let's not get carried away so soon.



I am glad he has played well.



But at this point, he is a player who is finally able to play after missing a year over a condition that could be life threatening.  He is trying to prove himself to the team.  Do you want to bet he is giving a really high effort right now vs. other vets that are going through the motion at the moment?




Now this is not a "be down on Green" post.


This is an understand the conditions on the floor at the moment and don't up expectations on Green right now based on the pre-season.