If This Is the Jeff Green We're Getting...

[greenlion]

what's with the fanboying with josh smith? no way josh smith near the potential that jeff green brings us..

[Goldstar88]

what's with the fanboying with josh smith? no way josh smith near the potential that jeff green brings us..

I agree 100%

[indeedproceed]

what's with the fanboying with josh smith? no way josh smith near the potential that jeff green brings us..

I think this year an upgrade on the offensive and defensive end at a starting position should be pretty beneficial.

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

[indeedproceed]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Seems pretty relevant to me. A lot of guys look good in the preseason and then come down to earth when real games start.

[Redz]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Seems pretty relevant to me. A lot of guys look good in the preseason and then come down to earth when real games start.

It's more than numbers I see from Green, it's an attitude.  He looks like a guy who is out to prove something.

[crimson_stallion]

what's with the fanboying with josh smith? no way josh smith near the potential that jeff green brings us..

He's a freak athlete with career averages of 15.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 3.1 APG, 1.3 SPG, 2.2 BPG.

He averaged 16.8 PPG, 13.6 RPG, 4.8 APG in the playoffs last season, so he ups his game ever further on the big stage.

He can play either SF or PF and even C at a squeeze

He barely missed being an All-Star last season (pretty much certain he will be this season)

He's a skilled scorer, an excellent rebounder, an elite passing bigman - this skillset makes him a triple double threat on any night

He's an elite defensive player with the legitimate potential to be a future DPOTY

He's 27 years old and only JUST beginning to tap into his potential, which makes all of the above even more impressive.

I love the things Smith brings to the table, and he would instantly propel this team to elite status.

All of that said, it would still be really hard for me to see guys like Sullinger, Green and Lee go after how well they have played for us so far in the preseason.

All three of those guys have been incredible for us, they are all great locker room guys, and they all seem so happy to be here...I'm starting to get attached to this group!

Still, just imagine that starting lineup...

Rajon Rondo
Avery Bradley
Paul Pierce
Josh Smith
Kevin Garnett

Can you imagine Miami trying to score against that team, with:

* Rondo defending the perimeter
* Bradley harrassing Wade
* Pierce harassing Lebron
* Smith protecting the paint
* KG harassing Bosh

Bradley and Pierce defend Wade and Lebron as well as anybody in the league, and Bosh always has a hard time against KG. Rondo's out there cheating and getting in the passing lanes, and then even if Wade/Lebron DO get past their defender, you have an elite shot-block in Josh Smith rotating over to help.

There is no lineup in the league that would give Miami headaches like that one. 

[bfrombleacher]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Seems pretty relevant to me. A lot of guys look good in the preseason and then come down to earth when real games start.

It's more than numbers I see from Green, it's an attitude.  He looks like a guy who is out to prove something.

He's also bigger physically and playing on the inside a lot more.

[Celts Fan 92]

stop wit beggin Josh Smith to come here man he's a terrible shooter yet continues to shoot nd is one of da worst decision makers  in da open court for every great play wit him you'll get 2 idiotic decisions. Jeff green has been more aggressive then he was his last stint here we're gonna see an improved more confident player let Green cook

[indeedproceed]

Jeff Green reality check: 17.7/5.9/1.3 per 40, 44.4% FG in 5 games vs. NBA teams this preseason. In 2010-11? 16.4/5.9/1.8, 44.9%.

- John Hollinger on Twitter

What the hell is this guy's deal with Jeff Green? Does he have a problem with Green performing well or something? He thinks he's a hot shot just because he can run some numbers through a machine. What a shame.

Seems pretty relevant to me. A lot of guys look good in the preseason and then come down to earth when real games start.

It's more than numbers I see from Green, it's an attitude.  He looks like a guy who is out to prove something.

He's also bigger physically and playing on the inside a lot more.

Those are both great indicators for what we may get from Green, but there are potential realities and current realities. Currently, Green is a player playing well in the preseason, which he's done before.

I'm excited about him too, but my optimism is very cautious. No sense falling in love before the first date.

[Celts Fan 92]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EprveDGVBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnqZ8hqQ3q8

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these are playoff games where Smith tries to do too much lol. Knowin how yall overreact wit every lil thing a player does or if he doesnt have a good game he would be stoned on dis site. Green is younger nd has more versatility scorin wise no sense for a trade for Smith when we have Jeff green

[indeedproceed]

stop wit beggin Josh Smith to come here man he's a terrible shooter yet continues to shoot nd is one of da worst decision makers  in da open court for every great play wit him you'll get 2 idiotic decisions. Jeff green has been more aggressive then he was his last stint here we're gonna see an improved more confident player let Green cook

Well I don't think anyone is 'begging' Josh Smith to come here, but he does have bad shot selection. There are some rationizations for that, but odds on the actual shot selection improving on the Celtics are just as probable as Jeff Green being the same special player he is now come the playoffs.

I'd love it if either thing happened.

[j804]

John Hollinger is a Heat Stan Jeff Green is going to kill it this year

[crimson_stallion]

stop wit beggin Josh Smith to come here man he's a terrible shooter yet continues to shoot nd is one of da worst decision makers  in da open court for every great play wit him you'll get 2 idiotic decisions. Jeff green has been more aggressive then he was his last stint here we're gonna see an improved more confident player let Green cook

I understand you are 'patriotic' towards Celtics players, and I understand your love for Green becuase I feel great about us having him too.

But, there comes a time where you need to draw the line between being a loyal fan and being a blind fanboy.

Smith had a net off/def rating of +6.1 last season, which was above both Joe Johnson (+5.9) and Jeff Teague (+5.4). 

Josh Smith also had a +/- rating of +271 which led the Hawks and ranked him 24th in the NBA.  Our highest ranked player was KG who was two spots below him at 26th (+266).

He also ranked 12th in the NBA in Efficiency rating (22.1) and 22nd in Efficiency per 48 minutes.  Again KG led Boston in the EP48, ranking 15th overall.  Our next highest ranked player was Pierce at 62nd overall.

You can say what you want about Josh Smith's decision making, but he obviously does contributes more than enough in other aspects of his game to make up for it...and on a team as stacked as Boston his decision making would be less obvious because he'd be playing alongside an elite playmaker in Rondo, and wouldn't be forced to shoulder the offensive load like he did in ATL.   

Does all of this mean I'm begging for Josh Smith to come here?  At the beggining of this off-season hell yes..right now not so much. I would absolutely LOVE to have J-Smooth in Boston, but right now I feel like he would cost too much in terms of trade value to get him.

- Green is desperately needed to fill the backup SF role
- Bradley is desperately needed or his defensive impact
- Terry is critical for his clutch and bench scoring
- Lee is critical for his ability to defend bigger guards

That means the only two guys we could trade away (without losing too much) would be Bass, Sullinger and Melo...but I doubt Atlanta would give him up for those three guys alone, and I doubt the contracts would match anyway.

I'm pretty sure that financially we'd need to send either Lee, Terry or Green out, and I don't want to lose either one of those guys...so right now I'm content with keeping what we have.  I'd rather work out a sign-and-trade deal once Smith becomes a free agent.

[indeedproceed]

stop wit beggin Josh Smith to come here man he's a terrible shooter yet continues to shoot nd is one of da worst decision makers  in da open court for every great play wit him you'll get 2 idiotic decisions. Jeff green has been more aggressive then he was his last stint here we're gonna see an improved more confident player let Green cook

I understand you are 'patriotic' towards Celtics players, and I understand your love for Green becuase I feel great about us having him too.

But, there comes a time where you need to draw the line between being a loyal fan and being a blind fanboy.

Smith had a net off/def rating of +6.1 last season, which was above both Joe Johnson (+5.9) and Jeff Teague (+5.4). 

Josh Smith also had a +/- rating of +271 which led the Hawks and ranked him 24th in the NBA.  Our highest ranked player was KG who was two spots below him at 26th (+266).

He also ranked 12th in the NBA in Efficiency rating (22.1) and 22nd in Efficiency per 48 minutes.  Again KG led Boston in the EP48, ranking 15th overall.  Our next highest ranked player was Pierce at 62nd overall.

You can say what you want about Josh Smith's decision making, but he obviously does contributes more than enough in other aspects of his game to make up for it...and on a team as stacked as Boston his decision making would be less obvious because he'd be playing alongside an elite playmaker in Rondo, and wouldn't be forced to shoulder the offensive load like he did in ATL.   

Does all of this mean I'm begging for Josh Smith to come here?  At the beggining of this off-season hell yes..right now not so much. I would absolutely LOVE to have J-Smooth in Boston, but right now I feel like he would cost too much in terms of trade value to get him.

- Green is desperately needed to fill the backup SF role
- Bradley is desperately needed or his defensive impact
- Terry is critical for his clutch and bench scoring
- Lee is critical for his ability to defend bigger guards

That means the only two guys we could trade away (without losing too much) would be Bass, Sullinger and Melo...but I doubt Atlanta would give him up for those three guys alone, and I doubt the contracts would match anyway.

I'm pretty sure that financially we'd need to send either Lee, Terry or Green out, and I don't want to lose either one of those guys...so right now I'm content with keeping what we have.  I'd rather work out a sign-and-trade deal once Smith becomes a free agent.

Case well made.

Financially, I don't think Terry or Lee is likely, and I honestly think it would hinge on one or both of two factors:

1) How well Avery Bradley, Jeff Green, the rookies, and Brandon Bass is playing

2) How bad the Hawks are playing.

If the Hawks are bad, they have no real reason to keep Smith around for what would likely be a full on rebuilding process.

If Jeff Green is playing very well, he makes the most sense. He's the biggest 'name', fills a gigantic need long term at the 3, and is young enough to weather a rebuild.

He also makes 9 million per, which helps the salary restrictions considerably.

Bass also fills a big need at the 4, whether in a reserve role or starting.

Bradley I think we'll hold on to. The Hawks already have an undersized guard who doesn't pass well and is lightening quick in Jeff Teague. Courtney Lee makes the most sense for them, but I think they'd be just as happy with a 1st round pick.

Jeff Green, Brandon Bass, 2013 1st

for

Josh Smith, Kyle Korver

makes a ton of sense for both teams if Jeff Green is the player we hope he is.