Bass Should Start

[Rtpas11]

Whats sup with this failed experiment by Doc. Sullinger is best @ coming off the bench. Rondo hurts Sully's game offensively, because opponents play off of him & help in the post which is the area Sully needs room to go to work. + Sully is undersized; playing the post against elite bigs right now is too soon.

 I love our playoffs 5 last year & even the regular season Starters. Bass offsets Rondo & viceversa. Rondo needs space in the paint, Bass provides that by stepping out for jumpers so does K.G. Again our starters last year need to be the same as this - Ray.

Last but not least, Sully play off the bench will be great, because our bench players offset Sully big time. Terry, Barbosa, Green all could shoot the 3. Millicic is also an underrated passing bigman. Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! Bass Start Bench Sully! 

[pearljammer10]

I actually think Sully fits better with the Starting unit. The starters lack a low post presence that can bang down low. With Sully alongside KG, Sully's lack of defense will be less noticeable. Putting Bass in the second unit allows Darko to be the low post presence while Bass sets up for the jump shot. I think Sully paired with KG and Bass paired with Darko is much better than two jump shooters (KG and Bass) and two low post guys (Darko and Sully).



Regardless, in the end Bass will end up starting.

[snively]

Needs KG to cover him defensively, IMHO.  Also benefits greatly from being able to play off of our best playmakers/decision makers in Rondo, KG and Pierce - keeps him as a situational scorer, limits his creation attempts to ideal match-ups, instead of being the de facto go to post guy with the 2nd unit.

He'd be useful off the bench too, but his defensive issues would be harder to hide.  He'd probably play less minutes overall as a result.  As he's our best offensive rebounder, that would put us right back in the same ORB% heckhole we were in last year.

[snively]

Sorry, I was talking about Sully in my post. 

[MJohnnyboy]

Needs KG to cover him defensively, IMHO.  Also benefits greatly from being able to play off of our best playmakers/decision makers in Rondo, KG and Pierce - keeps him as a situational scorer, limits his creation attempts to ideal match-ups, instead of being the de facto go to post guy with the 2nd unit.

He'd be useful off the bench too, but his defensive issues would be harder to hide.  He'd probably play less minutes overall as a result.  As he's our best offensive rebounder, that would put us right back in the same ORB% heckhole we were in last year.

I don't think Bass' defensive inefficiencies really would because it would be against the second string which has lesser talent. Not to mention Darko has looked like he could be a defensive presence in the low post.

My take is both are good enough to start. They bring different pluses and minuses to the table. Sullinger brings more on offense and is pretty smart but seems to be slow on defensive rotations and can't handle offensively talented bigs. Bass is lethal in the pick and pop and is actually a capable one-on-one defender, but he has no low post game and does not have a high bball iq.

If you ask me, Sully should start, but I won't complain if Bass does.

[kg is king]

One thing for sure is that putting Sully in the starting lineup will help the unit with rebounding. Bass is not a good rebounder at all. Sully can stretch the floor as well, although not to the extent of Bass. I am really torn on this one actually. The pick and pop game with Bass is so lethal that it covers up alot of his deficiencies (rebounding, defense). Sully can also stroke it from mid-range but he can rebound better.

Sully it is!

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I didn't want Sully to start either but that was before I really paid attention to his defense.

He HAS to start after what I have seen from him defensively... he is absolutely horrible on defense (he is okay on man D though)! He needs KG more than anyone on that side of the ball. It is almost shocking how slow he is to recover and he is terrible on PnR! It's like he is stuck in cement... as bad as people say Bass is on defense (they exaggerate), he is light years better than Sully. It seemed like last game Doc had come to his senses and took Sully out when KG went out... hopefully that continues. 

I guess I'm now on the start Sully train... either that or he must be in with Darko (that may be the reason Doc took Sully out when he took KG out, because Darko didn't play).

[SHAQATTACK]

I like Sully , as he isn't afraid of contact.   Bass and Green don't want to fight for every step around the basket.
 

Bass plays the part of a man Kris Josephs size. 

Bass has a nice little jumper , but he frustates the heck out of me doing pretty much everything else.

[Clench123]

I agree

[nickagneta]

I agree with this but until I see someone other than Bass starting at PF in a regular season game, I am not taking for granted that Doc's starting different people in the preseason means anything more than a coach wanting to see what players play well with other players.

If Doc has taught us anything over the years its that he makes players earn their minutes. I don't see that anyone has earned the right to start over Bass after what he showed last season and last postseason.

[lon3lytoaster]

Brandon Bass is not a starter on an NBA championship team.

Is Sully? I don't know. But Brandon Bass absolutely is not.

[nickagneta]

Brandon Bass is not a starter on an NBA championship team.

Is Sully? I don't know. But Brandon Bass absolutely is not.

Not yet he isn't, but do I really have to go down the list of players people didn't think were starting quality type players on a championship caliber team that won rings by being a starter on a championship team? The list is pretty deep.

[Jon]

I used to think that and I think there's an argument for that. 

That said, Sullinger's post game might actually be more useful with the starters.  KG and PP are increasingly having a hard time find their shot and Rondo is inconsistent in that area.  Bass is someone who has to have his shot created for him.  Sullinger on the other hand, could actually thrive in the half court with Rondo, PP, and KG feeding him, and PP and KG helping to space the floor. 

Bass, while having potentially a harder time finding his shot, is better on the break than Sullinger, and could be part of a dynamic running unit with Rondo and Green later in the first quarter. 

[Change]

He should. I don't how Doc can keep Sullinger in starting unit when Celtics face The Miami Heat.

[lightspeed5]

sully is playing great. +23 tonight being in the starting lineup. sully played his way to the starting lineup.