Dooling

[ummidkme]

Having said that -- can we at least agree that his career, though long, was at best an underachievement?  The guy was a lottery pick.  He played for half-a-dozen teams in 13 years.  His most common role was as a backup PG.  That is perfectly legitimate and something to be proud of...but I don't think that's what scouts thought he would become.

You decide for yourself man.

2000 Draft

1. Kenyon Martin, New Jersey
2. Stromile Swift, Vancouver
3. Darius Miles, L.A. Clippers
4. Marcus Fizer, Chicago
5. Mike Miller, Orlando
6. DerMarr Johnson, Atlanta
7. Chris Mihm, Chicago (1)
8. Jamal Crawford, Cleveland (1)
9. Joel Przybilla, Houston (2)
10. Keyon Dooling, Orlando (3)
11. Jerome Moiso, Boston
12. Etan Thomas, Dallas
13. Courtney Alexander, Orlando (4)
14. Mateen Cleaves, Detroit
15. Jason Collier, Milwaukee (2)
16. Hidayet Turkoglu, Sacramento
17. Desmond Mason, Seattle
18. Quentin Richardson, L.A. Clippers
19. Jamaal Magloire, Charlotte
20. Speedy Claxton, Philadelphia
21. Morris Peterson, Toronto
22. Donnell Harvey, New York (5)
23. DeShawn Stevenson, Utah
24. Dalibor Bagaric, Chicago
25. Iakovos Tsakalidis, Phoenix
26. Mamadou N'diaye, Denver
27. Primoz Brezec, Indiana
28. Erick Barkley, Portland
29. Mark Madsen, L.A. Lakers

I think the pick was pretty good considering.

[Celts Fan 92]

Having said that -- can we at least agree that his career, though long, was at best an underachievement?  The guy was a lottery pick.  He played for half-a-dozen teams in 13 years.  His most common role was as a backup PG.  That is perfectly legitimate and something to be proud of...but I don't think that's what scouts thought he would become.

You decide for yourself man.

2000 Draft

1. Kenyon Martin, New Jersey
2. Stromile Swift, Vancouver
3. Darius Miles, L.A. Clippers
4. Marcus Fizer, Chicago
5. Mike Miller, Orlando
6. DerMarr Johnson, Atlanta
7. Chris Mihm, Chicago (1)
8. Jamal Crawford, Cleveland (1)
9. Joel Przybilla, Houston (2)
10. Keyon Dooling, Orlando (3)
11. Jerome Moiso, Boston
12. Etan Thomas, Dallas
13. Courtney Alexander, Orlando (4)
14. Mateen Cleaves, Detroit
15. Jason Collier, Milwaukee (2)
16. Hidayet Turkoglu, Sacramento
17. Desmond Mason, Seattle
18. Quentin Richardson, L.A. Clippers
19. Jamaal Magloire, Charlotte
20. Speedy Claxton, Philadelphia
21. Morris Peterson, Toronto
22. Donnell Harvey, New York (5)
23. DeShawn Stevenson, Utah
24. Dalibor Bagaric, Chicago
25. Iakovos Tsakalidis, Phoenix
26. Mamadou N'diaye, Denver
27. Primoz Brezec, Indiana
28. Erick Barkley, Portland
29. Mark Madsen, L.A. Lakers

I think the pick was pretty good considering.

dat whole draft class is sewage water mane nd hell no 7 ppg for a lottery pick aint good at all bruh rofl

[Change]

Eye opening piece. Mad props to Keyon turning a horrible situation into a postive. It takes a lot of courage and strength to speak that candidly about his life. Respect!

[saltlover]

This cracked me up:

Dooling continued, “Not only do I think [Rondo]’s the second-best player in the NBA behind Kevin Durant, but I think he is an amazing leader. I think he doesn’t get a fair shake in the media and I wish they knew my friend the way I did.”

Haha.  Reading between the lines, I guess there wasn't a snowball's chance that he was signing in Miami.

Hm. So he's been invited by Doc to travel with the team for road games, and Ainge talked about having _a_ roster spot open. What's the chance they're trimming to 14 with the idea to bring Dooling back if we have an emergency situation?

Christmas is only guaranteed a half-year salary, and after that can be cut at any date with no additional obligation.  If Dooling decides he wants to return after a few months, it is an easy transaction that won't affect the Celtics room under the apron.

I don't think the roster stays at 14 for the first part of the year, with AB already out and Melo being carpaccio.

[LooseCannon]

Christmas is only guaranteed a half-year salary, and after that can be cut at any date with no additional obligation.

There is a date in January when all contracts become guaranteed.

[saltlover]

Christmas is only guaranteed a half-year salary, and after that can be cut at any date with no additional obligation.

There is a date in January when all contracts become guaranteed.

My mistake.  I forgot about the January 10th rule when I looked at Sham Sports and saw his contract was half-guaranteed with "no guarantee date."

So Dooling changing his mind shortly after Christmas (no pun intended whatsoever) would make the move an easy one for apron purposes.  That said, reading the article, Dooling doesn't seem like he is likely to change his mind, especially if it would cost another player his job.

I guess the salary cap thing I'm uncertain of is this: The Celtics waived Dooling, which means his full salary counts against the apron/tax.  If he re-signs later in the year, would his pro-rated salary from the time of his re-signing count again, and so he'd be double counted?  Or if he signs for the minimum at any point this year with the Celtics, is he like a free player, since he's already been accounted for?  The second option would make more sense to me, but the NBA CBA doesn't always make sense.