Police Officers Trained On How To Deal With Open Carry Activists

[Bahku]

Yeah, this was clearly a bait-and-catch ruse by this idiot with a weapon that would scare or at least alert suspicion highly of almost anyone, and his soul, (and extremely transparent), purpose was to try and show any little crack possible in the officers' reactions/procedures that might be exploited in some way.

It's really despicable and pretty sad, and serves no positive purpose that I can see.

The best thing about it is that it backfires on them, and only shows them to be the small, shallow tools that they are, and the officers handle the whole thing with the prefect amount of professionalism and tact, without letting themselves be baited into doing anything remotely questionable.

Major kudos to these cops.

[Celtics4ever]

That training worked!  What a cop.   

People who push the rules will ruin it for every one.  All it will take is one guy and a copycat or two to cut lose and no more open carry.   A weapon like that is almost probable cause, IMHO.

I am a veteran, I own several weapons or firearms.   I really get sick of the NRA calling me wanting me to join all the time.   I feel safe without a gun and don't feel the government is going to take mine away.   I also do not think that a militia which is the purpose of the second amendment would last five minutes against trained regulars.   I have no problem with hunters or target shooters.   

But that kid is an idiot!  What a snot nosed weasel.   You could tell from his voice that he was the kind of wimp who needed a gun.

[CDawg834]

This guy in the video is the most smug, obnoxious little tool I've ever heard in my life.  He goes out with the sole purpose of antagonizing people then tries to play it like he is some kind of victim of persecution.  What a sad, small human being you have to be to act like this.

If anything, he is actually a detriment to gun rights, because no one should support this kind of behavior.

[Donoghus]

Some smarmy, low self-esteemed 20 year old takes a criminal justice & constiutional law class at the local community college and thinks he's an expert now.

Nice to see the cop not go along with where this kid wanted this thing to go. Total backfire on the kid's part.

Way to waste the cop's time, you idiot. 

[guava_wrench]

The cop was great. Very patient despite the kid trying to make his job difficult.

[KY Celts fan]

I'm a big supporter of 2nd Amendment rights, and have no problem with open carry either. I do have a problem with people who purposely try to antagonize the police and then make themselves seem like the victim, as this kid was trying to do. I see it a lot with political activists, from both sides of the aisle. This officer kept his cool and didn't play this kid's game.

[JSD]

I believe that you can carry certain weapons if you'd like. At the same time, I also believe that if you do wanna carry, you can also get searched, harrased by the cops, scrutinized and anything else that comes along with carrying the weapon, especially if it's in the name of public safety.

I mean, I have the right to drive, but I still need a license, I still have rules to follow by, and if  I am driving wrecklessly, even if I am on the right, I can still get pulled over and get held up by a cop and present all the paperwork that supports that right to drive a car.

But to use your anology, this kid was essentially going the speed limit down a main street and was pulled over.

[indeedproceed]

I believe that you can carry certain weapons if you'd like. At the same time, I also believe that if you do wanna carry, you can also get searched, harrased by the cops, scrutinized and anything else that comes along with carrying the weapon, especially if it's in the name of public safety.

I mean, I have the right to drive, but I still need a license, I still have rules to follow by, and if  I am driving wrecklessly, even if I am on the right, I can still get pulled over and get held up by a cop and present all the paperwork that supports that right to drive a car.

But to use your anology, this kid was essentially going the speed limit down a main street and was pulled over.

No, the kid was smoking a big hand-rolled tobacco cigarette and drinking from a brown glass bottle that read on the label 'root' in very small letters and BEER' in very large letters, while doing the speed limit down main street.

What you're implying JSD is that the kid was behaving normally. Carrying a semi-automatic rifle in the open while walking on foot in a busy intersection is not normal behavior.

[JSD]

My point was that the guy with the gun was not breaking the law, as Amonkey's comparison suggests. That officer had no reasonable suspision to detain the suspect outside of the questioned gun possibly being an automatic. Absolutely none.

If he had another gun, say a glass bottle that's clearly labeled 'Mountain Dew', there's really nothing the officer can do outside of observation.

[indeedproceed]

My point was he wasn't breaking the law, as Amonkey's comparison suggests. That officer had no reasonable suspision to detain the suspect outside of the questioned gun possibly being an automatic. Absolutely none. If he had another gun, say a glass bottle that's clearly labeled Mountain Dew, there's really nothing there.

That's fine. And if we're gonna keep the metaphors, if I'm driving down main street with a glass mountain dew bottle, doing the speed limit, I really doubt I get arrested..I'm also not scaring the crap out of the locals, and prompting them to call the police to investigate just what the heck is going on.

[JSD]

My point was he wasn't breaking the law, as Amonkey's comparison suggests. That officer had no reasonable suspision to detain the suspect outside of the questioned gun possibly being an automatic. Absolutely none. If he had another gun, say a glass bottle that's clearly labeled Mountain Dew, there's really nothing there.

That's fine. And if we're gonna keep the metaphors, if I'm driving down main street with a glass mountain dew bottle, doing the speed limit, I really doubt I get arrested..I'm also not scaring the crap out of the locals, and prompting them to call the police to investigate just what the heck is going on.

Minus that particular automatic lookalike, I doubt the cops are even called in that what is obviously an open carry state. Those citizens weren't scared, they were likely armed themselves.

[indeedproceed]

My point was he wasn't breaking the law, as Amonkey's comparison suggests. That officer had no reasonable suspision to detain the suspect outside of the questioned gun possibly being an automatic. Absolutely none. If he had another gun, say a glass bottle that's clearly labeled Mountain Dew, there's really nothing there.

That's fine. And if we're gonna keep the metaphors, if I'm driving down main street with a glass mountain dew bottle, doing the speed limit, I really doubt I get arrested..I'm also not scaring the crap out of the locals, and prompting them to call the police to investigate just what the heck is going on.

Minus that particular automatic lookalike, I doubt the cops are even called in that what is obviously an open carry state.

Yeah, if you're carrying a holstered sidearm in public, I really doubt people are phoning in your description and location to police.

If you're carrying around the gun the the video, I hope you get detained. 

[JSD]

“If it wasn’t suspected of being fully auto, he would have been fine,” Nork told PoliceOne. “And after a closer look, I didn’t see anything illegal.”

After the incident, Nork traced the citizen, who he called a “one-man activist group,” to a YouTube channel where he posts similar encounters. In most of them, he appears to expect law enforcement contact.

The video is being praised on forums for Nork’s professionalism in handling the encounter. He is a law enforcement veteran of nine years with no training in open carry specifically, but said he was blessed with the right words.

"There's not a cop that I know who wants to be on YouTube," Nork said. "But I'm glad I'm the guy who people are saying 'hey, let’s do it this way.’"

I guess this happened in Oregon and the officer had no specific training in dealing with this matter. Just a great overall officer.


 http://www.policeone.com/Patrol-Video/articles/5930343-Video-Cops-expert-open-carry-response-goes-viral/

[JSD]

This kid has a youtube channel. Here's a different encounter where the officer lacked reasonable suspicion:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MskmQZeFbNA&feature=relmfu

[bdm860]

This kid has a youtube channel. Here's a different encounter where the officer lacked reasonable suspicion:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MskmQZeFbNA&feature=relmfu

Is that the cop from Bridesmaids?  Not used to hearing accents on cops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-mPpja7jZY