CB Draft Wrap Up: What Did You Like, What Could Be Better?

[Roy H.]

We usually like to do a yearly wrap up of the CB Draft, so here it is.

This year, we lost a ton of voters after the playoff voting, and the playoff matchups (with a couple of exceptions) didn't get a lot of outside participation.

So, what did you like?  What didn't you like?  What could be done better?

[StartOrien]

Two easy changes that'd help out a lot -

Break the playoffs up more. I think you'd still lose people, but the threads would be more interesting. Four playoffs a day means most of your high volume posters are living in one thread waiting for inquiries about their team, and it ends up pretty much being back and forth between the two different teams

Send out a pm each round reminding people to vote

[indeedproceed]

I could have won. We could've started with that.

Other than that, I think the biggest issue is that we need more direction and consistency atthe top. Me, Roy, wd,, faf, we were all too busy to give this thing the 2 hours it needed. If it werent for Walker wiggle, the draft page would still be unfinished, and there just wasn't time.

Did we get more participation last year? I think we did, not sure.

Persistent badgering via PM from the commish to make sure that people vote Seemed to work last year, so maybe it works again.

Also too many co-GMs. Three high volume posters and guys who never miss a vote were co-GMs this year. That means less debate, less voting, less of a draft.

Not saying we should outlaw co-GMs, just that I personally think an unintended consequence of it is we get less from both guys than we would if they were their own team.

[indeedproceed]

Again though, really the biggest problem was that I didn't win. That really hurt the draft this year, as it was obviously a total popularity contest.





(kidding, it was a Lebron James contest and we all lost.)

Hey also, maybe in next years draft, you can't pick the MVP.

Also, I'd love to investigate keepers.

Preliminary rules: you can't keep anyone picked in the first 5 rounds, they cost you the pick for the round preceding their place last year, and you can't keep the same keepers in consecutive years.

[Roy H.]

Would it make sense to give teams two votes, so that Co-GMs can each vote (whereas all other teams basically get double votes)?  Or to allow Co-GMs to vote individually after their teams are eliminated from the playoffs?

Does the timing of the draft need to be tweaked?

I'm personally in favor of going to a rotation of drafts.  We have the CB Draft, the Pick 2 Draft, and the Historical Draft.  Maybe it makes sense to only do two of those per year, one in February and the other in the summer / early fall.  That helps prevent draft fatigue in my mind, and keeps these drafts a little bit more special.

[Roy H.]

Also, I'd love to investigate keepers.

Preliminary rules: you can't keep anyone picked in the first 5 rounds, they cost you the pick for the round preceding their place last year, and you can't keep the same keepers in consecutive years.

I don't love the idea of keepers.

Isn't one of the complaints that the draft is turning too clique-ish?  Wouldn't this be an impediment to new GMs getting involved at least in a lot of cases?

[ronaldo943]

Also too many co-GMs. Three high volume posters and guys who never miss a vote were co-GMs this year. That means less debate, less voting, less of a draft.

Why thank you

I think if people were GMs this year and they left their team halfway through the season or did not vote once in the playoffs should not be allowed to participate in the next Draft, also giving TPs would probably get outsiders to vote.

I think we should have the CB Draft next year as i came in halfway in this one. First year doing it.

[wdleehi]

Time. 


I find I have less and less time to work on these. 

[StartOrien]

Keepers would sure make things interesting, certainly give some value to rookies who are otherwise worthless, and it could make it more fun for people picking outside the top ten. I mean, it mightve been that the top ten was loaded with veteran gms but this came down to wade vs lebron, who had just went through cp3 and d12. Grannted, this wouldn't have been an issue if people used their brains and selected the lake show...

[RebusRankin]

My biggest issue is Detroit losing in the Eastern Conference Finals.

I like the idea of scaling the number of drafts back. Due to my schedule, I'd love a historic draft in July or one with drafting at night only (say 7pm-11pm EST). On that note, I think a draft of players either from the 79/80-88/89 seasons or the 69/70-78/79 seasons would be a blast.

[indeedproceed]

Also, I'd love to investigate keepers.

Preliminary rules: you can't keep anyone picked in the first 5 rounds, they cost you the pick for the round preceding their place last year, and you can't keep the same keepers in consecutive years.

I don't love the idea of keepers.

Isn't one of the complaints that the draft is turning too clique-ish?  Wouldn't this be an impediment to new GMs getting involved at least in a lot of cases?

Maybe maybe not. I don't think keepers makes it more cliquish. As far as getting new blood, you assign new GMs a defunct teams roster and let them make their own pick for keepers.

I think it really brings new elements into the game. Nobody picked in the first five rounds, so likely all the big stars are off the table, it gives incentive for TOTF candidates to stay engaged, since they will be the guys most likely to benefit from this, and it will boost up anticipation for the draft.

[StartOrien]

Also gives you a better reward than "told you so."

[indeedproceed]

Also I really want the ability to keep Jimmy Butler and one of Vucevic/Shved next season at little to no cost. I think they're going to emerge as potential studs next year.

[indeedproceed]

Also gives you a better reward than "told you so."

Yup yup yup. Best case scenario, you're likely gonna have a second year player like Robinson who is a legit starter or high level rotation player. Likely won't tilt the competitive balance too much, it'd be much less of an impact than a really lopsided trade, and everyone gets to feel kinda smart.

[ronaldo943]

I also feel like we should have another draft that is a mixture of CB Draft and CB Long Term Keeper H2H League

You buy players instead of picking them
there is keepers

and well the rest will be like the cb draft with playoffs, totf.