Chad Ford gives C's offseason move an A. what u think

[bfrombleacher]

i wanted them to get Perry Jones and Sully but i guess they didnt want to get two guys who have "injury" issues

Perry Jones is injured as we speak...right?

[Cman]

A, for all the reasons stated above.
I think Lee could have come a bit cheaper, but it was a real position of need for the Cs. Same for Jeff Green, for that matter.

[guava_wrench]

I think that Terry is a better 6th man than Ray for the times when Rondo is off the floor. Ray has gotten progressively worse with the ball in his hands. With Rondo on the floor, I prefer Ray at the 2 over Terry, but I have seen a lot more Ray than Terry.

I am happy about the $ savings with Ray not agreeing to our contract offer. That helped with our depth.

I often find it hard to take people's complaints about frontline depth seriously because I feel their expectations are often way out there. How many teams have frontline depth? The Heat haven't even had a legitimate starting Center.

I think the Sully pickup is great since he is going to be underpaid early on. The reason I say this is that he fell in the draft due to health concerns that seem to be more of a long term fear. He is highly skilled and ready to contribute, which makes him a good value at his draft position for this year. If his body breaks down in later years, perhaps we will regret the decision, but if we want an immediate contributor, he is a great pick and a great value.

[snively]

B.  We added intriguing, but expensive role player talent, + a good but aging 6th man, and lost a lot of flexibility by committing to so many long-term, sizable deals.  I'm tempted to drop the grade to B- because we did so little to address our massive rebounding problem - basically, we're hoping that Jared Sullinger is NBA-ready. 

To maintain pole position as a fringe contender when free agency and new cap restrictions posed such a threat, is quite an accomplishment, but the Lakers set the bar higher this offseason, just as the C's did in 2007, and the Heat did in 2010.  They went from non-contender to frontrunner.

[Boris Badenov]

The Terry signing alone almost justifies an "A."

For at least the last year, end of game offensive execution has been the single greatest flaw of this team.

Terry does more to address that than almost any player in the league. Take a look at this list:

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

This was not a fluke either. Since 2007-2008, the first year that 82Games.com started tracking these numbers, Terry has ranked 16th, 12th, 25th, 14th, and 13th in the league in "close and late" scoring output.

His scoring average is roughly 35 per 48 minutes in those situations - very similar to Pierce.  Not too different from other elite end-of-game guys like Anthony, Durant etc.

What is even more exceptional is Terry's efficiency in these situations. Last year he shot 45/39/93 in the "clutch," and the year before 51/44/94.

[AB_Celtic]

The Terry signing alone almost justifies an "A."

For at least the last year, end of game offensive execution has been the single greatest flaw of this team.

Terry does more to address that than almost any player in the league. Take a look at this list:

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

This was not a fluke either. Since 2007-2008, the first year that 82Games.com started tracking these numbers, Terry has ranked 16th, 12th, 25th, 14th, and 13th in the league in "close and late" scoring output.

His scoring average is roughly 35 per 48 minutes in those situations - very similar to Pierce.  Not too different from other elite end-of-game guys like Anthony, Durant etc.

What is even more exceptional is Terry's efficiency in these situations. Last year he shot 45/39/93 in the "clutch," and the year before 51/44/94.

Cool site. Didn't know Terry was actually more clutch than Ray.

[More Banners]

B.  We added intriguing, but expensive role player talent, + a good but aging 6th man, and lost a lot of flexibility by committing to so many long-term, sizable deals.  I'm tempted to drop the grade to B- because we did so little to address our massive rebounding problem - basically, we're hoping that Jared Sullinger is NBA-ready. 

To maintain pole position as a fringe contender when free agency and new cap restrictions posed such a threat, is quite an accomplishment, but the Lakers set the bar higher this offseason, just as the C's did in 2007, and the Heat did in 2010.  They went from non-contender to frontrunner.

I'm just generally disinclined to count on a rookie.  Rookies can be talented, but they make mistakes.  Execution is important in close games.

Wilcox is the big signing for me.  I like what he can do healthy, especially his mobility and touch around the hoop.  He's an asset.  I also like Collins in Steimsma's role (bench), but we could go with a tall frontcourt of KG, Wilcox, and Collins against big lineups, but we could use more size at the 4.

Bass just can't line up against Gasol.

[Interceptor]

Bass just can't line up against Gasol.

Indeed. Nice thing is, they have to get through OKC first. Here's hoping that Perk does his old team a solid, and knocks out the Lakers in round 2.

[jdz101]

Bass just can't line up against Gasol.

Indeed. Nice thing is, they have to get through OKC first. Here's hoping that Perk does his old team a solid, and knocks out the Lakers in round 2.

Perkins had a red hot go at defending Dwight before his injury. Perkins now though? Forget about it.

[Boris Badenov]

The Terry signing alone almost justifies an "A."

For at least the last year, end of game offensive execution has been the single greatest flaw of this team.

Terry does more to address that than almost any player in the league. Take a look at this list:

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

This was not a fluke either. Since 2007-2008, the first year that 82Games.com started tracking these numbers, Terry has ranked 16th, 12th, 25th, 14th, and 13th in the league in "close and late" scoring output.

His scoring average is roughly 35 per 48 minutes in those situations - very similar to Pierce.  Not too different from other elite end-of-game guys like Anthony, Durant etc.

What is even more exceptional is Terry's efficiency in these situations. Last year he shot 45/39/93 in the "clutch," and the year before 51/44/94.

Cool site. Didn't know Terry was actually more clutch than Ray.

Ray's shooting percentages are not shabby, but the big difference is plainly the ability to create a shot.

In those situations last year, 91% of Ray's points were "assisted." This is a staggeringly high number.

Terry's percentages are, over the last few years, in the 50%-60% range. These may seem high but are also not much higher than Pierce's, which range 40%-50%.

The elite one-on-one players (Kobe, Lebron, Carmelo) have numbers in the 20%-30% range.

[Sizzlack]

Definitely an A. He's accomplished everything you could have possibly hoped he could, and so much more.

1) Steal on Sullinger at 21, which will turn out to be the steal of the draft this year, no doubt about it.

2) Solid pick on Melo who could easily turn into "Perk with a jump shot" in 1-2 years.

3) Home run hits on the Ray Allen replacements with Jason Terry/Courtney Lee.

4) Got KG back at fairly reasonable money.

5) Bass, Green, Wilcox all resigned for solid deals (Maybe an overpay on Green, but it's debatable.)

6) Dooling back on a veteran minimum.

7) Potential second round steal in Kris Joseph who looks really solid so far.

Honestly, who could say anything less than an A there? Not even a question.

[chambers]

This offseason was great. I'd say an A- or B+
I don't really like re-signing Bass to play for us, but I understand that he's going to be a valuable trade chip come Christmas/ All Star time, or he's going to be a great big man off the bench depending on who else we move to get bigger.

If we are having a good season we almost have to make a move for one more All- Star caliber big. Ie: Verajao or Josh Smith for Bass+Rookie/picks.

We shall see. I'm excited though.

[mctyson]

B.  We added intriguing, but expensive role player talent, + a good but aging 6th man, and lost a lot of flexibility by committing to so many long-term, sizable deals.  I'm tempted to drop the grade to B- because we did so little to address our massive rebounding problem - basically, we're hoping that Jared Sullinger is NBA-ready. 

To maintain pole position as a fringe contender when free agency and new cap restrictions posed such a threat, is quite an accomplishment, but the Lakers set the bar higher this offseason, just as the C's did in 2007, and the Heat did in 2010.  They went from non-contender to frontrunner.

This is all very confusing.

First, the longest term deal Danny signed anyone to was Jeff Green at 4 years.  We can debate the merits of Green all day, whether he is overpaid or not, whether he is any good or not, but I don't necessarily consider signing a 25 year-old to a 4-year deal as something "long term."  Just locking him up in his prime, and for the rest of Rondo's contract.  After that, you have nothing but 3 year deals, all of which are reasonable money.  KG might not even see the end of his deal.  Ditto Jason Terry.

You complain about how expensive our deals were.  Can you name some players who you would have signed in lieu of Bass, Green, Terry, Lee, etc. that project to be at least as good, while costing significantly less money?  In addition, exactly what stopgap were we going to get to address our rebounding deficiencies that does not violate your deal criteria of "sizable" and "long term?"

I don't see how you can classify a team that nearly beat Miami in the EC Finals last season, a team that seemingly is much improved on paper, as a "fringe contender."  They are a contender.  Period.  Not a guaranteed trip to the NBA Finals, but certainly a contender for that trip.

Finally, you cannot grade the offseason in the context of Miami signing Lebron and Bosh, or in the context of LA trading Bynum for Howard.  These were two unique circumstances that occurred for two very unique franchises (ex. they are the best destinations for players in the country.)  While it was very nice for us to acquire KG and Ray in 2007 and build the nucleus that brought us all this success, those situations are rarely, if ever, going to occur again.