CB Draft Playoff Matchup - (3)Hawks vs (6)Pacers

[Rondo2287]

I think Greg Monroe would prove a very difficult matchup for Tim Duncan. I think Monroe is too quick and too agile for an old Tim Duncan. I'd expect Monroe to get a lot of joy against Duncan as a shot-creator. Especially so with a playmaker of Rondo's caliber setting him up.

I am tempted to call that center matchup neutral ... and I say that as someone who doesn't rate Monroe particularly high.

I can see why you would say that but I still give Duncan the edge.  Especially in the playoffs, we saw how Bradley shrunk in the playoffs this year after playing well to end the season.  Experience/Shoulder Injuries will come into play here.

Fixed that for you.

I was going to add that he had to deal with JJ the 6'7" 2 guard. That being said, I have no idea who should win this series.

And here he will have to deal with either Kobe or Hill  depending on the timing, but Im assuming he will be defending Kobe so he still will have to try and defend kobe which I don't see going well based on the size mismatch

[Who]

I'd expect George Hill to own Bradley Beal in a head to head matchup.

I am not convinced Beal can score efficiently enough against a defender of G.Hill's caliber to be a positive contributor for the Pacers.

[Who]

The Benches

I think the Hawks have a large advantage with their guards off the bench. With Jason Kidd against Kirk Hinrich and Bradley Beal.

As for the big men, I like Dalembert over Kanter. I think Kwame vs Dalembert is even. So I would play Kwame ahead of Kanter. I think Carl Landry has an advantage at PF against Mbah a Moute.

On the wing, I think Pietrus and Mbah a Moute is reasonably close but I'd go with Pietrus due to his shooting ability. I think Atlanta's offense minimizes Mbah a Moute's lack of a jumper though. Only a minor plus for Indiana.

Head Coach

Phil Jackson should give Atlanta the coaching edge over Indiana's Danny Ainge.

[Rondo2287]

Also please keep in mind home court advantage in this matchup.  Phil Jacksons Career record is 47-0 when winning game 1 of a playoff series.  With home court advantage and Kobe and Duncan I like my chances of going up 1-0 in the series and making that record 48-0

[wdleehi]

The Hawks have no answer for the best player in the series.



I have 5 guys to defend Kobe.


I have multiple players to guard Duncan.



My best player can go for almost the whole game. 


Duncan can't. 

[Rondo2287]

The Hawks have no answer for the best player in the series.



I have 5 guys to defend Kobe.


I have multiple players to guard Duncan.



My best player can go for almost the whole game. 


Duncan can't.

So when you say no answer do you mean a very good answer that I have stated repeatedly as to why the contsruct of your team is detrimental to rondo's abilities? 

[Rondo2287]

Like I said, the pacers don't have the floor spacing to make Rondo as effective as he can be.  My team will be able to play off of him and my bigs will be able to stay close to the rim because his bigs are not offensive threats with their jumpers. 

Yet Wdleehi has no means to stop Kobe.  No means to stop David West, and no quality leaders to rally the troops if things go bad.  Like I said we have three of the winningest people ever associated with the NBA.  The Pacers leader throws snapple bottles through tv's when his mistakes in the playoffs are mentioned.

Leadership matters/experience matters

[ronaldo943]

This is a series that i would actually love to watch very close series, i'd say it goes to game 7

[Rondo2287]

This is a series that i would actually love to watch very close series, i'd say it goes to game 7

To be honest I really don't think that this one is close.  I think this is probably a 5 game series.  The pacers are too week offensively and lack the experience to win on the road in the playoffs.

[wdleehi]

This is a series that i would actually love to watch very close series, i'd say it goes to game 7

To be honest I really don't think that this one is close.  I think this is probably a 5 game series.  The pacers are too week offensively and lack the experience to win on the road in the playoffs.

You are hoping that because your guys would be gassed if it went 7 games.


Especially when my best player (who has a title so we can throw out inexperience out the window) is in his prime.

[Rondo2287]

So like i have said I believe a rotation of George hill, Kobe Bryant and a little mbah a moute in which they play off of Rondo and force him to be a jump shooter is all we need to do.  The Pacers remaining players don't have the shooting ability to spread the floor and give rondo the space to get to the basket.  If rondo does get by the perimeter defenders he will be met by either West, Duncan or Dalembert who will be close to the basket and ready to rotate due to the Bigs of the Pacers not being a threat to shoot from midrange.

On the offensive end we will work the ball around and let Duncan and West operate on the block where I believe they will have advantages on both Scola and Monroe.  We will also let Kobe post up Bradley where he should be able to get whatever shot he wants due to the size mismatch.  Also I believe the passing ability of Duncan and West will set the two hills up for cuts to the basket since neither Monroe or Scola are difference makers as shot blockers.

Oh ya and we have home court advantage

[Rondo2287]

This is a series that i would actually love to watch very close series, i'd say it goes to game 7

To be honest I really don't think that this one is close.  I think this is probably a 5 game series.  The pacers are too week offensively and lack the experience to win on the road in the playoffs.

You are hoping that because your guys would be gassed if it went 7 games.


Especially when my best player (who has a title so we can throw out inexperience out the window) is in his prime.

And has since been in trade talks several times and has thrown temper tantrums when his mistakes are pointed out in the playoffs.  I mean Rondo was kicked out of the building when he was on a team with vets like KG Pierce and Paul.  I can only imagine what he will do without those stabalizing factors.  Especially when his coach is the person that tried to trade him quite a few times.

[indeedproceed]

Like I said, the pacers don't have the floor spacing to make Rondo as effective as he can be.  My team will be able to play off of him and my bigs will be able to stay close to the rim because his bigs are not offensive threats with their jumpers. 

Didn't Avert Bradley shoot pretty well from 3 during the regular season?

Didn't Beal get often compared to Ray Allen?

Didn't Batum shoot some weird percentage that made John Hollinger make his O face in public?

(what was it, 50/80/40 or something?)

How does Scola's shot locations numbers match up to KG's? (I don't know, but Scola shot 44% on 16-23 ft jumpers last season so...holla.)


I don't know that spacing is gonna be a huge problem for them.

[ronaldo943]

Well i already made my vote but who do you guys think will win this series?

[Rondo2287]

Like I said, the pacers don't have the floor spacing to make Rondo as effective as he can be.  My team will be able to play off of him and my bigs will be able to stay close to the rim because his bigs are not offensive threats with their jumpers. 

Didn't Avert Bradley shoot pretty well from 3 during the regular season?

Didn't Beal get often compared to Ray Allen?

Didn't Batum shoot some weird percentage that made John Hollinger make his O face in public?

(what was it, 50/80/40 or something?)

How does Scola's shot locations numbers match up to KG's? (I don't know, but Scola shot 44% on 16-23 ft jumpers last season so...holla.)


I don't know that spacing is gonna be a huge problem for them.

I think we have seen enough of Avery Bradley to know that he is not a good 3 pt shooter at this point in his career.  He has been inconsistent at best with the 5-6 3pt night really boosting his percentage.  (almost a quarter of his three pointers made all season were made in one game)

  Scola's EFG% on jump shots was 40.9% Monroes was 33.6%, KG's was 46.3%, Bass was Also 46.3%

Ya, so if you exclude bradley's game where he was 5-6 Bradley shot 35% from three for the season.  Also I have said Batum is the only legitimate floor stretcher on the team, he can shoot.