Will Terry retire a Celtic? / be a HOF'er?

[AB_Celtic]

I was reading Forsberg's daily summer piece on the Celtics (link) and he wrote, "this is almost certainly the JET's last flight."

Terry will have just turned 35 when the season starts, which means he'll be 37 when he wraps up his 3-year contract with the Celtics. I'm not so sure he'll retire then, for two reasons. First, he seems to truly love the game. Second, he's in pretty good shape for his age.

What do you guys think? Will Terry retire after his three seasons as a Celtic?

[wdleehi]

No clue if he even makes it that long. 

[xmuscularghandix]

The question i think about more often is whether or not Jason Terry is a Hall of Famer. He has more points, rebounds, and assists than Joe Dumars with about the same amount of Games Played.

Obviously Joe Dumars is a much better defensive player and was only considered a team's top offensive option for a few seasons in the middle of his career. Then again Jason Terry could never have been considered a team's first option and he has also be praised over his career as one of the league's greatest 6th Men.

All that being said... i think he'll probably retire as a Celtic just like a bunch of my other favorite players from the late 90's/2000's (Michael Finley, Sam Cassell, Shaq, Sheed, and PJ Brown). It truly has been nice to once again have an elite, Championship-contending team in Boston. I love seeing veteran guys coming to BOS and praising our atmosphere.

[dark_lord]

The question i think about more often is whether or not Jason Terry is a Hall of Famer. He has more points, rebounds, and assists than Joe Dumars with about the same amount of Games Played.

Obviously Joe Dumars is a much better defensive player and was only considered a team's top offensive option for a few seasons in the middle of his career. Then again Jason Terry could never have been considered a team's first option and he has also be praised over his career as one of the league's greatest 6th Men.

jason terry in the HOF?!?!?!

6th man of the year, and 2nd team all rookie....those are his only achievments.  he was a role player on one championship team. comparing him to dumars is laughable based on their nba resumes

[AB_Celtic]

The question i think about more often is whether or not Jason Terry is a Hall of Famer. He has more points, rebounds, and assists than Joe Dumars with about the same amount of Games Played.

Obviously Joe Dumars is a much better defensive player and was only considered a team's top offensive option for a few seasons in the middle of his career. Then again Jason Terry could never have been considered a team's first option and he has also be praised over his career as one of the league's greatest 6th Men.

jason terry in the HOF?!?!?!

6th man of the year, and 2nd team all rookie....those are his only achievments.  he was a role player on one championship team. comparing him to dumars is laughable based on their nba resumes

He also has the fourth most 3-pointers in history, behind Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, and Jason Kidd, all definite hall-of-famers.

Also, the Sixth Man award has only been around since '82, and since then only 19 players have received the award and retired. We don't quite know what kind of weight the award holds yet.

You could make an argument for it. It'd be tough, but not impossible.

Oh, and to call him a role player on that team is way off. He was as key to their success as James Harden was to the Thunder last year.

[bfrombleacher]

The team and Rondo might help him get there *braces for tomato chucking*

[dark_lord]

The question i think about more often is whether or not Jason Terry is a Hall of Famer. He has more points, rebounds, and assists than Joe Dumars with about the same amount of Games Played.

Obviously Joe Dumars is a much better defensive player and was only considered a team's top offensive option for a few seasons in the middle of his career. Then again Jason Terry could never have been considered a team's first option and he has also be praised over his career as one of the league's greatest 6th Men.

jason terry in the HOF?!?!?!

6th man of the year, and 2nd team all rookie....those are his only achievments.  he was a role player on one championship team. comparing him to dumars is laughable based on their nba resumes

He also has the fourth most 3-pointers in history, behind Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, and Jason Kidd, all definite hall-of-famers.

Also, the Sixth Man award has only been around since '82, and since then only 19 players have received the award and retired. We don't quite know what kind of weight the award holds yet.

You could make an argument for it. It'd be tough, but not impossible.

Oh, and to call him a role player on that team is way off. He was as key to their success as James Harden was to the Thunder last year.

ZERO all star teams.....that should close the book.

and ur comparison to harden validates my claim....he was a role player on that team.  with okc, harden played a role, but the team lives and dies with durant and westbrook.

[AB_Celtic]

and ur comparison to harden validates my claim....he was a role player on that team.  with okc, harden played a role, but the team lives and dies with durant and westbrook.

Harden should have been starting over Sefolosha, but they found him more valuable off the bench, much like Manu Ginobili. You can't just label any bench player as a role player. Harden made plenty of clutch shots, including that dagger three in the WCF. He was much more than a role player and I think most here would agree with me.

Terry is on pace to score 20,000+ points in his career, which will put him top 40 all time. The only active players with 20,000+ points are...

Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Ray Allen
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Vince Carter

ALL of whom are hall-of-famers. That, plus his 3-pointers, plus 16 NBA seasons, puts him in the conversation. I'm not saying he's a definite, but it wouldn't be outrageous. There are players who miss out on all-star games simply because they played on teams where they weren't the first option, but they are still hall-of-fame caliber players. K.C. Jones comes to mind.

[dark_lord]

and ur comparison to harden validates my claim....he was a role player on that team.  with okc, harden played a role, but the team lives and dies with durant and westbrook.

Harden should have been starting over Sefolosha, but they found him more valuable off the bench, much like Manu Ginobili. You can't just label any bench player as a role player. Harden made plenty of clutch shots, including that dagger three in the WCF. He was much more than a role player and I think most here would agree with me.

Terry is on pace to score 20,000+ points in his career, which will put him top 40 all time. The only active players with 20,000+ points are...

Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Ray Allen
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Vince Carter

ALL of whom are hall-of-famers. That, plus his 3-pointers, plus 16 NBA seasons, puts him in the conversation. I'm not saying he's a definite, but it wouldn't be outrageous. There are players who miss out on all-star games simply because they played on teams where they weren't the first option, but they are still hall-of-fame caliber players. K.C. Jones comes to mind.

harden stepped up, but that doesnt mean he isnt a role player (a very good one).  same goes for terry.  he is a very good role player.....he is not an all star (and has never been one his entire career) and he has no business being in the HOF

serious question, has there ever been an nba player inducted to the hof that has never made a single all star game (i have no idea, which is why i ask)

[AB_Celtic]

and ur comparison to harden validates my claim....he was a role player on that team.  with okc, harden played a role, but the team lives and dies with durant and westbrook.

Harden should have been starting over Sefolosha, but they found him more valuable off the bench, much like Manu Ginobili. You can't just label any bench player as a role player. Harden made plenty of clutch shots, including that dagger three in the WCF. He was much more than a role player and I think most here would agree with me.

Terry is on pace to score 20,000+ points in his career, which will put him top 40 all time. The only active players with 20,000+ points are...

Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Ray Allen
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Vince Carter

ALL of whom are hall-of-famers. That, plus his 3-pointers, plus 16 NBA seasons, puts him in the conversation. I'm not saying he's a definite, but it wouldn't be outrageous. There are players who miss out on all-star games simply because they played on teams where they weren't the first option, but they are still hall-of-fame caliber players. K.C. Jones comes to mind.

harden stepped up, but that doesnt mean he isnt a role player (a very good one).  same goes for terry.  he is a very good role player.....he is not an all star (and has never been one his entire career) and he has no business being in the HOF

serious question, has there ever been an nba player inducted to the hof that has never made a single all star game (i have no idea, which is why i ask)

... K.C. Jones ...

[dark_lord]

and ur comparison to harden validates my claim....he was a role player on that team.  with okc, harden played a role, but the team lives and dies with durant and westbrook.

Harden should have been starting over Sefolosha, but they found him more valuable off the bench, much like Manu Ginobili. You can't just label any bench player as a role player. Harden made plenty of clutch shots, including that dagger three in the WCF. He was much more than a role player and I think most here would agree with me.

Terry is on pace to score 20,000+ points in his career, which will put him top 40 all time. The only active players with 20,000+ points are...

Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Ray Allen
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Vince Carter

ALL of whom are hall-of-famers. That, plus his 3-pointers, plus 16 NBA seasons, puts him in the conversation. I'm not saying he's a definite, but it wouldn't be outrageous. There are players who miss out on all-star games simply because they played on teams where they weren't the first option, but they are still hall-of-fame caliber players. K.C. Jones comes to mind.

harden stepped up, but that doesnt mean he isnt a role player (a very good one).  same goes for terry.  he is a very good role player.....he is not an all star (and has never been one his entire career) and he has no business being in the HOF

serious question, has there ever been an nba player inducted to the hof that has never made a single all star game (i have no idea, which is why i ask)

... K.C. Jones ...

so terry just need 7 more titles if he hopes to get in 

[AB_Celtic]

... K.C. Jones ...

so terry just need 7 more titles if he hopes to get in 

True, Terry is nowhere near the amount of titles Jones has.

I'll end this with one last point. Jason Terry has happily accepted the role of being the sixth man. It is quite rare that a sixth man makes an all-star team, but it does not mean he is an unproductive player. Terry accepting and relishing the role of the sixth man has hurt his hall-of-fame chances, but I think the fact that he did this needs to be considered in these conversations.

Oh, and I should mention one other thing. Of the top 35 scorers of all time (George Gervin being last, with 20,708, a very reasonable goal for Terry) seven are still active (the seven I listed before), three are not yet HOF eligible (Shaq, A.I. and Gary Payton), and the REST, as in EVERYONE ELSE, all 26 others, are in the HOF.

[dark_lord]

... K.C. Jones ...

so terry just need 7 more titles if he hopes to get in 

True, Terry is nowhere near the amount of titles Jones has.

I'll end this with one last point. Jason Terry has happily accepted the role of being the sixth man. It is quite rare that a sixth man makes an all-star team, but it does not mean he is an unproductive player. Terry accepting and relishing the role of the sixth man has hurt his hall-of-fame chances, but I think the fact that he did this needs to be considered in these conversations.

Oh, and I should mention one other thing. Of the top 35 scorers of all time (George Gervin being last, with 20,708, a very reasonable goal for Terry) seven are still active (the seven I listed before), three are not yet HOF eligible (Shaq, A.I. and Gary Payton), and the REST, as in EVERYONE ELSE, all 26 others, are in the HOF.

taking the role he did is admirable, but it doesnt change the fact he isnt HOF worthy.  is terry a very good player, yes.  his numbers are very solid, but i also attribute them to his ability to stay healthy and be durable during a 13 or 14 (whichever it is) year career. 

again, he has no business in the HOF, as there are lots of other players more worthy.  the fact he has never made an all nba team, nor ever made a single all star team negates him from being in the HOF.  if he were on several championship teams, then maybe a special case could be made.  his only accolades are 1 title, 1 6th man award, and 2nd team all rookie.....that just doesnt cut it to get into the HOF

although he isnt HOF worthy, i LOVE that he is on our team

[Celtics18]

I doubt he's a hall of famer, but I do think that Jason Terry has had one of the most under-rated careers among active NBA players.  To me, one of his most impressive stats is that he's played in thirteen NBA seasons and only missed a total of 28 games during that stretch.  His durability isn't being talked about (maybe it's for fear of jinxing it), but Jason Terry has been a true iron man for a long time in this league.  I'm excited that he's a Celtic. 

[AB_Celtic]

...i LOVE that he is on our team

Me too.