Predict the Lakers record

[celtsfan84]

48-34

Any team with Howard, Artest, and Bryant is going to melt down when they get on a losing streak because their defense is a sieve at the PG position.

Out of respect (inexplicable) for los Nash they'll call out their favorite whipping boy, Gasol....Instead of los Nash. 

This is a team that sorely lacks athletism at the wings and at PG to deal with OKC.

woah now... they won 57 two years ago and would have won 50+ last year as well... you have them regressing despite upgrading Bynum to the best center alive and adding the best shooter in the world.  K

Well, the best shooter in the world...K....plays only that end of the court.  Which won't bode well for two of the best defenders in basketball when they see how lazy he is defensively.  There's a reason los Nash gets nowhere in the playoffs.  Won't be much different here.

The team isn't a train wreck...(Although any team with Artest, a defensive minded coach, and somebody who doesn't pretend to care about defense has the potential to be) But it isn't nearly as good as the pundits think.  IMHO...

K?

You must really like Steve Blake to think that Nash is a downgrade.

In reality, it's a wash.

What los Nash brings offensively...He adds the same amount to dysfunction defensively.  I think Howard, Artest and particularly Bryant are going to get tired of chasing los Nash's man around while he stands around stroking his hair.

I feel for Mike Davis.

Phil Muenster is probably licking his chops waiting for Davis to get fired.

Geez, I wonder how all of Nash's teams haven't gone 0-82.  Channing Frye must be a monster.

Their goal is to win a championship.  There's a reason los Nash hasn't won any....And won't.  I think it'll wear on a team with defensive oriented players. 

How many championships has Paul Westhead won?  Mike D'Antoni?  Los Nash?  Iverson?  Tank Carter?  They'll outscore some teams and get beat when it matters.

Championships are won on both ends of the court.

Dirk Nowitzki has one.  He just needed Tyson Chandler.

Much like Nash needs Dwight.

[BballTim]

Funny thing is... Celtics would have won about 48 games last year and yet some of the people on this forum have them pegged to win 60.  If losing Ray and adding some role players is worth 12 games... That's gotta mean Nash and Dwight is worth 20 for the Lakers.

  I think not getting off to a terrible start because KG and PP are out of shape might be worth about 10 games.

[BballTim]

48-34

Any team with Howard, Artest, and Bryant is going to melt down when they get on a losing streak because their defense is a sieve at the PG position.

Out of respect (inexplicable) for los Nash they'll call out their favorite whipping boy, Gasol....Instead of los Nash. 

This is a team that sorely lacks athletism at the wings and at PG to deal with OKC.

woah now... they won 57 two years ago and would have won 50+ last year as well... you have them regressing despite upgrading Bynum to the best center alive and adding the best shooter in the world.  K

  Are we sure that a guy who wasn't among the top 30 3 point shooters in the league is the best shooter in the world?

I'd say he's pretty close.  He takes more contested shots due to his greater role in the offense than guys like Kyle Korver who only shoot when wide open.

He is a 90% free throw shooter, which usually equates to a pretty good shooter.  Maybe not the best in the league, but likely top ten at absolute worst.

He'll get more open looks with Kobe, Pau, and Dwight than with Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, and Gortat.

 He's not in the top 100 players in 3 point attempts per game, and his 3 point fg% has dropped 4 years in a row. He might get more open looks but he might also have the ball in his hands less often playing with Kobe.

[celtsfan84]

48-34

Any team with Howard, Artest, and Bryant is going to melt down when they get on a losing streak because their defense is a sieve at the PG position.

Out of respect (inexplicable) for los Nash they'll call out their favorite whipping boy, Gasol....Instead of los Nash. 

This is a team that sorely lacks athletism at the wings and at PG to deal with OKC.

woah now... they won 57 two years ago and would have won 50+ last year as well... you have them regressing despite upgrading Bynum to the best center alive and adding the best shooter in the world.  K

  Are we sure that a guy who wasn't among the top 30 3 point shooters in the league is the best shooter in the world?

I'd say he's pretty close.  He takes more contested shots due to his greater role in the offense than guys like Kyle Korver who only shoot when wide open.

He is a 90% free throw shooter, which usually equates to a pretty good shooter.  Maybe not the best in the league, but likely top ten at absolute worst.

He'll get more open looks with Kobe, Pau, and Dwight than with Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, and Gortat.

 He's not in the top 100 players in 3 point attempts per game, and his 3 point fg% has dropped 4 years in a row. He might get more open looks but he might also have the ball in his hands less often playing with Kobe.

How many are contested and how many are open? How many are desperation heaves when his awful team is losing and they need desperation shots? And even with his "yearly decline", he outperforms Terry across the board.  And we signed Terry for his shooting, not for his rebounding and D.

The only players in NBA history with multiple 50/40/90 seasons are Steve Nash and Larry Bird. Only few others have done it once, including Reggie Miller, Mark Price, and Dirk.

If you find many better shooters, please send them to Danny quickly. You'll be a millionaire in no time.

[OsirusCeltics]

Honestly I'm not scared of the Lakers like most on the blog

Kobe's old, Nash is old, Dwight still doesn't know what a post move is, Jamison is always injured and old, and Gasol is still a Llama

[celtsfan84]

Honestly I'm not scared of the Lakers like most on the blog

Kobe's old, Nash is old, Dwight still doesn't know what a post move is, Jamison is always injured and old, and Gasol is still a Llama

KG, Terry, and Pierce aren't exactly young. And Gasol being a llama could prove advantageous for the Lakers.

[OsirusCeltics]

Honestly I'm not scared of the Lakers like most on the blog

Kobe's old, Nash is old, Dwight still doesn't know what a post move is, Jamison is always injured and old, and Gasol is still a Llama

KG, Terry, and Pierce aren't exactly young. And Gasol being a llama could prove advantageous for the Lakers.

True got a point. But sorry I can't get scared/weary over weak-mined players. Gasol and Dwight are two of the most weak minded

[celtsfan84]

Honestly I'm not scared of the Lakers like most on the blog

Kobe's old, Nash is old, Dwight still doesn't know what a post move is, Jamison is always injured and old, and Gasol is still a Llama

KG, Terry, and Pierce aren't exactly young. And Gasol being a llama could prove advantageous for the Lakers.

True got a point. But sorry I can't get scared/weary over weak-mined players. Gasol and Dwight are two of the most weak minded

According to wikipedia -  Llamas are intelligent and can learn simple tasks after a few repetitions. When using a pack, llamas can carry about 25% to 30% of their body weight for 5-8 miles.

Seem like marketable skills to me.

In seriousness though, Gasol has two titles already. He's proven he can win an NBA title.

[OsirusCeltics]

Honestly I'm not scared of the Lakers like most on the blog

Kobe's old, Nash is old, Dwight still doesn't know what a post move is, Jamison is always injured and old, and Gasol is still a Llama

KG, Terry, and Pierce aren't exactly young. And Gasol being a llama could prove advantageous for the Lakers.

True got a point. But sorry I can't get scared/weary over weak-mined players. Gasol and Dwight are two of the most weak minded

According to wikipedia -  Llamas are intelligent and can learn simple tasks after a few repetitions. When using a pack, llamas can carry about 25% to 30% of their body weight for 5-8 miles.

Seem like marketable skills to me.

In seriousness though, Gasol has two titles already. He's proven he can win an NBA title.

I actually think Gasol was the better player in the 2010 NBA Finals and should have won Finals MVP. But Kobe is the more stronger minded player to take control of the game

Even though he's a nutcase, Bynum is way more stronger minded than Gasol and Howard. Wish Bynum was on the Celtics

[BballTim]

48-34

Any team with Howard, Artest, and Bryant is going to melt down when they get on a losing streak because their defense is a sieve at the PG position.

Out of respect (inexplicable) for los Nash they'll call out their favorite whipping boy, Gasol....Instead of los Nash. 

This is a team that sorely lacks athletism at the wings and at PG to deal with OKC.

woah now... they won 57 two years ago and would have won 50+ last year as well... you have them regressing despite upgrading Bynum to the best center alive and adding the best shooter in the world.  K

  Are we sure that a guy who wasn't among the top 30 3 point shooters in the league is the best shooter in the world?

I'd say he's pretty close.  He takes more contested shots due to his greater role in the offense than guys like Kyle Korver who only shoot when wide open.

He is a 90% free throw shooter, which usually equates to a pretty good shooter.  Maybe not the best in the league, but likely top ten at absolute worst.

He'll get more open looks with Kobe, Pau, and Dwight than with Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, and Gortat.

 He's not in the top 100 players in 3 point attempts per game, and his 3 point fg% has dropped 4 years in a row. He might get more open looks but he might also have the ball in his hands less often playing with Kobe.

How many are contested and how many are open? How many are desperation heaves when his awful team is losing and they need desperation shots? And even with his "yearly decline", he outperforms Terry across the board.  And we signed Terry for his shooting, not for his rebounding and D.

The only players in NBA history with multiple 50/40/90 seasons are Steve Nash and Larry Bird. Only few others have done it once, including Reggie Miller, Mark Price, and Dirk.

If you find many better shooters, please send them to Danny quickly. You'll be a millionaire in no time.

  Phoenix won half their games, not exactly awful. And I'd say that there's quite a lot of room between best on the planet and better than Terry.

[SHAQATTACK]

If the season was 25 games they could be awesome. But, somewhere down the line Nash , Kobe's bodies will fail , and there are no replacemsnts. When Kobe is yelling for a breather , WHO is gonna score when they are out.  WHen NASH gets a concussion or elbow to the head who is gonna lead the team. When Howards back gets stressed and out of sorts 70 games into the season , can Nash , Kobe and Pau . play 40+ minutes every night .

I don't think the starting five can build a led big enough to hold when Pau , NASH and Kobe have to sit and rest.

It still is gonna come down to Kobe hitting the last shot and shooting 30 points a game. 

One accident or letdown for health and they fail.

I don't see them winning as many games as OKC or Celtics THIS SEASON...they have to incorporate MIKE BROWN , NASH AND HOWARD , they have to all get on the same page , learn to play together , ect , ect ....like  Bron and Wade , it took a while to put the puzzle together.   I don't think this year they can make the finals....2014 will be a different story.  IF they are healthy.

To bad Bynum can't play for OKC ...that would serve the fakers right...

[scaryjerry]

Who cares? they will undoubtedly win a lot of games, and almost certainly going to be in the finals against the heat...Unless of course Courtney lee and jason terry signings put us over, lol.

[celtsfan84]

48-34

Any team with Howard, Artest, and Bryant is going to melt down when they get on a losing streak because their defense is a sieve at the PG position.

Out of respect (inexplicable) for los Nash they'll call out their favorite whipping boy, Gasol....Instead of los Nash. 

This is a team that sorely lacks athletism at the wings and at PG to deal with OKC.

woah now... they won 57 two years ago and would have won 50+ last year as well... you have them regressing despite upgrading Bynum to the best center alive and adding the best shooter in the world.  K

  Are we sure that a guy who wasn't among the top 30 3 point shooters in the league is the best shooter in the world?

I'd say he's pretty close.  He takes more contested shots due to his greater role in the offense than guys like Kyle Korver who only shoot when wide open.

He is a 90% free throw shooter, which usually equates to a pretty good shooter.  Maybe not the best in the league, but likely top ten at absolute worst.

He'll get more open looks with Kobe, Pau, and Dwight than with Channing Frye, Jared Dudley, and Gortat.

 He's not in the top 100 players in 3 point attempts per game, and his 3 point fg% has dropped 4 years in a row. He might get more open looks but he might also have the ball in his hands less often playing with Kobe.

How many are contested and how many are open? How many are desperation heaves when his awful team is losing and they need desperation shots? And even with his "yearly decline", he outperforms Terry across the board.  And we signed Terry for his shooting, not for his rebounding and D.

The only players in NBA history with multiple 50/40/90 seasons are Steve Nash and Larry Bird. Only few others have done it once, including Reggie Miller, Mark Price, and Dirk.

If you find many better shooters, please send them to Danny quickly. You'll be a millionaire in no time.

  Phoenix won half their games, not exactly awful. And I'd say that there's quite a lot of room between best on the planet and better than Terry.

Phoenix won half of their games mostly because of Nash.  Which contender do you think Jared Dudley or Channing Frye would start for?  Not a single player on his team would have started for the Celtics.  Or even the Pacers.  How many playoff teams period would his guys start for?  How many rosters out there were worse at the 2-5 positions last year?  Phoenix won half their games due to Nash.  His teammates were awful.

Who are your top 10 shooters?  Since obviously Jason Terry and the only active player with multiple 50/40/90 seasons aren't in that top 10?

Once again, if you have 10 magical shooters you are hiding somewhere that are better than a guy who has shot 50/40/90 multiple times, letting Danny know about them would make you a wealthy man.

[celtsfan84]

If the season was 25 games they could be awesome. But, somewhere down the line Nash , Kobe's bodies will fail , and there are no replacemsnts. When Kobe is yelling for a breather , WHO is gonna score when they are out.  WHen NASH gets a concussion or elbow to the head who is gonna lead the team. When Howards back gets stressed and out of sorts 70 games into the season , can Nash , Kobe and Pau . play 40+ minutes every night .

I don't think the starting five can build a led big enough to hold when Pau , NASH and Kobe have to sit and rest.

It still is gonna come down to Kobe hitting the last shot and shooting 30 points a game. 

One accident or letdown for health and they fail.

I don't see them winning as many games as OKC or Celtics THIS SEASON...they have to incorporate MIKE BROWN , NASH AND HOWARD , they have to all get on the same page , learn to play together , ect , ect ....like  Bron and Wade , it took a while to put the puzzle together.   I don't think this year they can make the finals....2014 will be a different story.  IF they are healthy.

To bad Bynum can't play for OKC ...that would serve the fakers right...

There is no rule saying they have to rest all four at the same time.  When Kobe is taking a breather, Jodie Meeks will step in for him and Nash and Pau can score.

Your injury assumptions are kind of grasping at straws.  Howard's back is hurt, sure, but does Nash have a history of concussions that I don't know about?  What would you think our chances would be if KG or Rondo got hurt?  Or OKC's chances if Durant or Westbrook got hurt?Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh will tell you that young guys get injuries too. 

And you really think Kobe, Nash, and Pau would play 40+ minutes every night without Dwight?  That is highly doubtful.  Not every team in the league is OKC.  They can beat the Bucks just fine with Kobe, Nash, and Pau.

[Finkelskyhook]

Dirk Nowitzki has one.  He just needed Tyson Chandler.

Much like Nash needs Dwight.



Nowitzki took up space defensively and blocked an occasional shot.  los Nash does absolutely nothing defensively except stroke his hair and stand still.  Different dynamic altogether. 

los Nash needs Dwight and a designated defender to play defense for him.

Howard is a diva.  A great diva but still a diva.