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Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #120 on: August 06, 2012, 03:36:39 PM »

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My rankings for this division:

Boston
New York
Brooklyn
Philadelphia

Gotta say though I am not too confident that any teams here go very far in the playoffs. Boston has a nice trio but also a WHOLE BUNCH O' CRAZY in its starting lineup and is rather weak after that. Also, their outside shooting is not exactly efficient. Don't get me wrong those guys like to take outside shots and will hoist up a bunch, but not at a good or even average rate.

New York will have serious chemistry issues as Durant will have to fight to get Ellis, Maggette and Davis to pass him the ball and do his thing. Also, their backcourt defense leaves a lot to be desired, and I am being nice here.

Brooklyn is only getting third place because I am punishing the Philadelphia franchise for quitting the game. Otherwise, given that their starting back court won't be playing basketball for the rest of 2012 and that they have little experience as backups almost across the board and that Cousins, to me, is a Dwightmare waiting to happen, they are a last place team and possibly worse than the Boxers. That's saying a lot.

Two playoff teams in this division. Zero teams making the Finals.


A lot of times Maggette and KD won't be on the floor together.. Monta is a willing passer with 6apg and would say that would go up with a scorer like Durant on his side.

In assists per 48 minutes monta is at 7.8 which is not impressive, sure he got 6 assist a game but he also got 3 turnovers a game he also took 18 shots


You could go with per 48 and all that stuff. Monta is a player. A good one at that. He can score with the best of them and has never played with someone like Durant. He has the chance to strive here and he will.
Thanks for answering the question :)

Lou Williams > Monta Ellis :)

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http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2751/monta-ellis


Ask around this blog or even if you could someone get an opinion from the NBA people would take Monta Ellis over Lou williams anyday of the week. Not saying lou is a bad player. But he isn't as good as Monta..

Make Monta come off the bench and see how good he does


I'm sorry Monta Ellis is the better player. And Monta is coming off the bench in NYC..  :P

Lol i meant in real life right now ill get you the stats :)

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #121 on: August 06, 2012, 03:36:57 PM »

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I'd take Monta over Lou Williams. Probably. Well..yeah probably. I'd take Monta over Lou Williams if I had players and leaders who are clearly better than him in front of him.

If I had players that were on par or less talented than Ellis, and not like..giants in the game of basketball (like Grant Hill, etc..), I think I'd rather have Lou Williams. I think Monta's ego can come off the bench if its clear that's what the talent dictates. I don't think he could handle it just 'for the team'.

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #122 on: August 06, 2012, 03:39:07 PM »

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I'd take Monta over Lou Williams. Probably. Well..yeah probably. I'd take Monta over Lou Williams if I had players and leaders who are clearly better than him in front of him.

If I had players that were on par or less talented than Ellis, and not like..giants in the game of basketball (like Grant Hill, etc..), I think I'd rather have Lou Williams. I think Monta's ego can come off the bench if its clear that's what the talent dictates. I don't think he could handle it just 'for the team'.


Thank you. Monta is a good player and while playing next to Durant he can be even better. He can pour it in and is lighting fast. He will be fine next to Durant.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2012, 03:40:39 PM »

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These rankings are for the entire nba

Lou Williams:
37th in PER
14th in Scoring Per 48
5th in Assist to Turnover Ratio


Monta Ellis:
79th in PER
17th in Scoring Per 48
43rd in Assist to Turnover Ratio

Lou Williams is more efficient a better passer and scorer

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2012, 03:44:30 PM »

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Lou Williams and Monta Ellis seems like a fair comparison to me.

I would give Monta the nod over Lou Will but it's not an outrageous comparison to me.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #125 on: August 06, 2012, 03:44:45 PM »

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These rankings are for the entire nba

Lou Williams:
37th in PER
14th in Scoring Per 48
5th in Assist to Turnover Ratio


Monta Ellis:
79th in PER
17th in Scoring Per 48
43rd in Assist to Turnover Ratio

Lou Williams is more efficient a better passer and scorer

I think i'd prefer Lou Williams myself, but Monta Ellis can be absolutely electric if he finds the right home.

In my mind Ellis would be stellar as a 6th man for a quality team.  What team in the nba has a bench that is prepared to contain one of the best penetrators in the game?  His fast pace and penetration would cause havok situationally for a team with enough scoring in it's starting unit.

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #126 on: August 06, 2012, 03:44:57 PM »

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These rankings are for the entire nba

Lou Williams:
37th in PER
14th in Scoring Per 48
5th in Assist to Turnover Ratio


Monta Ellis:
79th in PER
17th in Scoring Per 48
43rd in Assist to Turnover Ratio

Lou Williams is more efficient a better passer and scorer


Dude generally every NBA fan knows how Overated PER is. Monta is a player. We like him coming off the bench and being next to KD.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #127 on: August 06, 2012, 03:47:27 PM »

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Westbrook and Durant had issues co-existing and Monta is less efficent in running an offense than Westbrook. In fact, in GS he had Curry and Davis to do so and in Milwaukee Jennings. Why do you think he'll

a) Be able to run your offense?
b) Be able to co-exist with Durant?

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #128 on: August 06, 2012, 03:47:58 PM »

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I'd take Monta over Lou Williams. Probably. Well..yeah probably. I'd take Monta over Lou Williams if I had players and leaders who are clearly better than him in front of him.

If I had players that were on par or less talented than Ellis, and not like..giants in the game of basketball (like Grant Hill, etc..), I think I'd rather have Lou Williams. I think Monta's ego can come off the bench if its clear that's what the talent dictates. I don't think he could handle it just 'for the team'.


Thank you. Monta is a good player and while playing next to Durant he can be even better. He can pour it in and is lighting fast. He will be fine next to Durant.

Well now hold on there, cowboy. I didn't say he'd work with your lineup. I said with the right pieces.

How are you going to justify to the second most talented guy on the team to fall in line and sit behind Jose Calderon or Corey Brewer? There is no way Monta is cool with that. He'll do it, he's not going to stay home or anything, but you'll be getting a sulky Monta. That's a baaaaad monta.

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #129 on: August 06, 2012, 03:49:45 PM »

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I didnt really mean it when i said Lou is better than Ellis i just wanted to see what WeMadeIt17 said even though i actually think it is a fair comparison and i would take Lou over Ellis as he doesnt mind coming off the bench and will do whatever the coach tells him to do

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #130 on: August 06, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »

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I'd take Monta over Lou Williams. Probably. Well..yeah probably. I'd take Monta over Lou Williams if I had players and leaders who are clearly better than him in front of him.

If I had players that were on par or less talented than Ellis, and not like..giants in the game of basketball (like Grant Hill, etc..), I think I'd rather have Lou Williams. I think Monta's ego can come off the bench if its clear that's what the talent dictates. I don't think he could handle it just 'for the team'.


Thank you. Monta is a good player and while playing next to Durant he can be even better. He can pour it in and is lighting fast. He will be fine next to Durant.

Well now hold on there, cowboy. I didn't say he'd work with your lineup. I said with the right pieces.

How are you going to justify to the second most talented guy on the team to fall in line and sit behind Jose Calderon or Corey Brewer? There is no way Monta is cool with that. He'll do it, he's not going to stay home or anything, but you'll be getting a sulky Monta. That's a baaaaad monta.

IP the damage has been done he now believes that Monta will get better with Durant

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #131 on: August 06, 2012, 04:06:45 PM »

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Boston, you say its championship or bust with your team and then name Westbrook, Griffin and Gasol. None have won a championship and only Westbrook has even been to an NBA Finals. How can you be championship or bust with a team with little play-off success?

BC I look at my talent level compared to the rest of the teams in the CB League. It's about this league and the expectations you have based on your talent and team compared to the others. It's not about the individual player as much as it is the team you created in this CB League.

Explain how your whole team works as a unit. I don't see it right now.

Ok.

Defensively we have the ability to play man to man. That's how defense will be predominately played. Position for Position. On some nights, when we aren't playing the elite scoring wings, Artest will not see as many minutes. Rip will play more for shooting Jackson to the 3.

Defense and rebounding will be big for us. We have two of the top rebounders in the game. So we get a rebound, outlet, and go. Russ and Blake on the break will be very difficult to stop. We also will look to commit turnovers and run. Getting to the line is bog for us too.

Anyways I am sure you are referring more to the Big 3 in the half court . All will play around 38 mpg. And 2 of them will be on the court almost always at the same time. We will first look at mismatches. Not many teams can match up with all three guys. So we exploit the advantage and make the defense adjust.

We will play a lot pick and roll/pop in the half court. Blake will play pick and roll. Blake will also be on the block when playing smaller 4s like Detroit has. Agsinst slower 4s we will iso him more and allow him to face up.

Gasol will also run some pick and pop. Gasol will play a lot of high and low post too. He will facilitate and look for cutters. When Gasol has the ball Griffin and Russ will always be moving. Gasol will also be given the green light to score in the post.

Russ will do his thing on the perimeter. Coming off picks he will have three options. Drive, pass, or shoot. I want him looking to drive first. His penetration is almost unstoppable and he finishes at the rim so well. If the defense collapses then make the play. Dish underneath to Gasol. Hit Griffin with a lob or on the cut. Or hit the open man on the perimeter. If they sag then drop the 18 footer.

To be honest it really comes back to the first line and the mismatches. Our strategy will be somewhat dictated by the opposition and their weaknesses. Our strategy in the half court will change somewhat based on what player has the advantage. So sometimes a guy might get the ball more then others. A lot like how Boston plays.

However one thing remains. Play attack style basketball on defense and get into transition as much as possible. Rebound the ball and get to the line if you can't finish.

If that doesn't help please keep asking questions. Just make sure they are detailed.

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Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #132 on: August 06, 2012, 04:08:48 PM »

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Westbrook and Durant had issues co-existing and Monta is less efficent in running an offense than Westbrook. In fact, in GS he had Curry and Davis to do so and in Milwaukee Jennings. Why do you think he'll

a) Be able to run your offense?
b) Be able to co-exist with Durant?

Are we sure that Russell Westbrook is more efficient at running an offense or does he just have a lot better of a surrounding cast.

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #133 on: August 06, 2012, 04:10:26 PM »

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Boston: You say it is championship or bust, do you actually think you will end up winning the championship? Or do you think you will go deep in the playoffs?

Re: 2012 CB Draft Atlantic Division Press Conferences
« Reply #134 on: August 06, 2012, 04:14:12 PM »

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Lol are you trying to trick me? Who said he is sitting behind corey brewer. We plan on using him just the way harden came off the bench..