2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"

[Lucky17]

Yeah, Miller is sneaky effective. A shame he doesn't have much of a jumper, but he's very good at getting into the paint and setting up his teammates.

So your backcourt is quite strong in its collective playmaking ability.

[jgod213]

Yeah, Miller is sneaky effective. A shame he doesn't have much of a jumper, but he's very good at getting into the paint and setting up his teammates.

So your backcourt is quite strong in its collective playmaking ability.

I just keep waiting for him to finally fall off, been waiting for the last few seasons, probably have to wait a few more.

[action781]

I'm curious to know what people think of my backourt

PG - Andre Miller
SG - Joe Johnson

I've always loved Andre Miller's game but i've always had a tough time figuring out what type of player he ideally fits with in a backcourt. He's definitely got an "old-dude-at-the-Y game" but he still keeps putting up numbers.

I like it.  On a team with Dwight and Joe Johnson, you don't need anything electric at the PG position, you just need someone steady and you've got it in Miller.

[celticpride07]

Okc thunder

Pg: Chauncey Billups
Sg: monta Ellis/ Courtney lee
Sf: Caron butler
Pf: serge Ibaka / Andrea bargnani
 C: Marc gasol/ Chris kaman

Thoughts after griffin trade?

[Who]

I'm curious to know what people think of my backourt

PG - Andre Miller
SG - Joe Johnson

I've always loved Andre Miller's game but i've always had a tough time figuring out what type of player he ideally fits with in a backcourt. He's definitely got an "old-dude-at-the-Y game" but he still keeps putting up numbers.

I dislike Andre Miller as a starter alongside JJ and Dwight Howard. His lack of a jumper and the time on the ball he requires are negatives. He won't be as effective as he normally is here + your stars won't be either.

I say bring in another starting PG and move Andre Miller to the bench.

Where (the bench) Miller was excellent last year for Denver. Along with Lou Williams, one of the two best backup guards in the league last season. He will be able to give you a completely different look from whomever you end up with as your starter. A game-changer off the bench.

[wdleehi]

9 man rotation

What needs to be added?

The Pacers
PG  Rondo
SG  Bradley
SF  Batum
PF Scola
C Monroe

bench
PG Hinrich
SG Beal
PF Landry
C/PF Kanter


Coach : Danny Ainge

[Lucky17]

9 man rotation

What needs to be added?

The Pacers
PG  Rondo
SG  Bradley
SF  Batum
PF Scola
C Monroe

bench
PG Hinrich
SG Beal
PF Landry
C/PF Kanter


Coach : Danny Ainge

A defibrillator for Danny?

It's a young bunch. There's going to be ups and downs. I do like most of the players here though.

If your opposition puts a ball-hawking disruptor on Rondo, the offense seems like it may flounder easily. Another playmaker/facilitator in the starting lineup might help: you may need to play Hinrich here and there when that happens.

I think a perimeter-oriented big would give your bench an added dimension, too.

[Who]

9 man rotation

What needs to be added?

The Pacers
PG  Rondo
SG  Bradley
SF  Batum
PF Scola
C Monroe

bench
PG Hinrich
SG Beal
PF Landry
C/PF Kanter


Coach : Danny Ainge

None of the bigs are plus defenders.

Need a backup wing with legitimate size for Nic Batum.

I'd strongly consider bringing in a playmaking PG. Either to (preferably) play ahead of Hinrich (while Rondo rests) or (second option) as an emergency third stringer when / if your offense needs a boost of creativity on the perimeter (when Rondo is resting).

[jgod213]

I'm curious to know what people think of my backourt

PG - Andre Miller
SG - Joe Johnson

I've always loved Andre Miller's game but i've always had a tough time figuring out what type of player he ideally fits with in a backcourt. He's definitely got an "old-dude-at-the-Y game" but he still keeps putting up numbers.

I dislike Andre Miller as a starter alongside JJ and Dwight Howard. His lack of a jumper and the time on the ball he requires are negatives. He won't be as effective as he normally is here + your stars won't be either.

I say bring in another starting PG and move Andre Miller to the bench.

Where (the bench) Miller was excellent last year for Denver. Along with Lou Williams, one of the two best backup guards in the league last season. He will be able to give you a completely different look from whomever you end up with as your starter. A game-changer off the bench.

Yeah ideally that would be his role, i'm with you on that.

[KCattheStripe]

In chat...come talk trade

LIAR!

[indeedproceed]

Paying TPs for in-depth analysis and good answers to the last questions at the end of the post:

PG: Jeremy Lin, Jarret Jack
SG: Dwyane Wade
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Chris Bosh/Kenneth Faried
C: Emeka Okafor/Brendan Haywood

Question 1: Should I start Kenneth Faried/Bosh? The numbers say so, but is it in the best interests of the team?

Question 2: How many minutes should Jeremy Lin play? How many with the starters?

Question 3: Should Wade/Pierce/Bosh be basically untouchable?

[ronaldo943]

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[StartOrien]

Paying TPs for in-depth analysis and good answers to the last questions at the end of the post:

PG: Jeremy Lin, Jarret Jack
SG: Dwyane Wade
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Chris Bosh/Kenneth Faried
C: Emeka Okafor/Brendan Haywood

Question 1: Should I start Kenneth Faried/Bosh? The numbers say so, but is it in the best interests of the team?

Question 2: How many minutes should Jeremy Lin play? How many with the starters?

Question 3: Should Wade/Pierce/Bosh be basically untouchable?

I shot you a PM cuz I don't want any of these GEEKS to get free advice.

[Who]

PG: Jeremy Lin, Jarret Jack
SG: Dwyane Wade
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Chris Bosh/Kenneth Faried
C: Emeka Okafor/Brendan Haywood

Question 1: Should I start Kenneth Faried/Bosh? The numbers say so, but is it in the best interests of the team?

I don't think Faried is a starter caliber player in the NBA yet. He is clearly a phenomenal rebounder and overall possession creator but I don't think he adds enough as a defender or as an offensive player.

Chris Bosh is a matchup nightmare at the center position but you'll lose that increase in offensive potency by putting Faried alongside him because Faried cannot make a shot outside of the paint so teams will hide their centers on him and leave their quicker big man defender on Bosh.

You will also negate the strength of your 1-2 punch at center of Okafor and Haywood by starting Bosh at center. Harder to get them the minutes they deserve.

I love Chris Bosh as a starting center but I wouldn't do in this circumstance. I don't think it makes best use of the personnel you have.

Question 2: How many minutes should Jeremy Lin play? How many with the starters?

Jeremy Lin should be nowhere near the starting lineup.

He has one chief value as a player and that is as a high usage creator offensively with mediocre efficiency. For a team desperate for offense, you start Lin and let him do his thing ... he'll improve your team.

For a team with an MVP caliber wing in Dwayne Wade and a pair of top 20 players in Paul Pierce and Chris Bosh ... each of whom who are highly talented offensive players ... it makes absolutely zero sense to take possessions away from them to give them to Lin.

Lin has proven himself incapable of functioning as a reasonable level in a smaller role in New York. When he is dominating the ball, he is electric. When he has to share it with Amare and Melo, his production and impact plummeted. The value he has alongside such talented teammates is minimal.

Jeremy Lin is not only a very poor starter ... but he will likely end up being a below average backup PG too (in this 24 team league that looks absolutely loaded at the PG position).

I would be trying to draft to compete with Jeremy Lin for those backup PG minutes.

Question 3: Should Wade/Pierce/Bosh be basically untouchable?

Bosh shouldn't be deemed untouchable. This team isn't built to his strengths so his value here is less than it could be. I would be open to considering a trade for Bosh if someone was offering you a top 20 or top 25 talent in return that better fit the rest of your team.

Dwayne Wade is one of the four best players in all of basketball. Unless you are getting one of the other three guys (Dwight, Durant, LeBron), Wade should be untouchable.

I would expect it's overwhelmingly unlikely that anyone gives you an upgrade for Pierce given his age and stuttering finish (due to injury) last season. So yeah, he is pretty much off the table too.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Jeremy Lin is not only a very poor starter ... but he will likely end up being a below average backup PG too (in this 24 team league that looks absolutely loaded at the PG position).

Lin's going to be a divisive player. But worth noting that Knicks third most successful lineup (+20) featured Lin, Anthony and Stoudemire. And we have to be careful of how we define "plummeted" (something in the neighborhood of 15/6/3) and whether that's an inditement of Lin or Melo.

And it strikes me as odd to talk about not starting a 23 year old with a net +/- as high as Lin's. His TS% of 55.2% puts him ahead of Deron Williams, Westbrook, Parker. His PER was 11th among point guards.

Let's also acknowledge that Lin's production should still improve given his young age, unlike Pierce and Wade who's numbers will likely decline, even if only marginally (as a best case scenario).

Dwayne Wade is one of the four best players in all of basketball. Unless you are getting one of the other three guys (Dwight, Durant, LeBron), Wade should be untouchable.

Also, I'd argue Who is letting Wade coast on his reputation and second championship ring. Wade’s PPP this season was 0.96 good for 96th best in the league, his defense is declining, and he's getting to the line far less (6.1 FTA per game is the worst mark of his career since his rookie year), his 4.8 OWS ranks him 21st in the league, his 2.9 DWS ranks 27th, he's a below average three point shooter (.268 3PT%). His 7.7 WS is the third lowest mark of his career. Don't get me wrong Wade is a top tier player, but that tier is top 15 not top 4. In fact, I'd be curious to know if Wade ranked top 4 by any measure last season.