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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #345 on: July 28, 2012, 02:43:04 PM »

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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #346 on: July 28, 2012, 02:47:02 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #347 on: July 28, 2012, 03:05:54 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Which team do you think most closely mirrors this approach?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #348 on: July 28, 2012, 03:33:09 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Which team do you think most closely mirrors this approach?
I think its clearly the grizzlies. More athletic, but two bigs who pass well, can score in the post and have a steady jumper.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #349 on: July 28, 2012, 03:40:57 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Which team do you think most closely mirrors this approach?
I think its clearly the grizzlies. More athletic, but two bigs who pass well, can score in the post and have a steady jumper.

We're basically the Grizzlies with better athletes so teams like OKC and the Clipps can't wear us down in a track meet.

Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #350 on: July 28, 2012, 03:44:11 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Which team do you think most closely mirrors this approach?
I think its clearly the grizzlies. More athletic, but two bigs who pass well, can score in the post and have a steady jumper.

We're basically the Grizzlies with better athletes so teams like OKC and the Clipps can't wear us down in a track meet.

How do you see Horford/Aldridge matching up against '11 Z-Bo/Gasol?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

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« Reply #351 on: July 28, 2012, 03:49:09 PM »

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Hopped on real quick on a mini vacation. I don't think what some want to see out of holiday would be his role. This is a team that works from the inside out. He doesn't have to be rondo, he needs to be a steady pg who can hit an open three and play good d

Which team do you think most closely mirrors this approach?
I think its clearly the grizzlies. More athletic, but two bigs who pass well, can score in the post and have a steady jumper.

We're basically the Grizzlies with better athletes so teams like OKC and the Clipps can't wear us down in a track meet.

How do you see Horford/Aldridge matching up against '11 Z-Bo/Gasol?

They're both better defenders and as we've seen in the past couple years as the pace picks up in the playoffs ZBO and Gasol struggle a bit, whereas Aldridge and Horford excel in that environment. M. Gasol is a better passer than both our guys, but both our guys are better passers than ZBo. Zbo is a better interior scorer than our guys, but both our guys are better in the post than marc.

Basically, our tandem is well equipped to deal with both the Blake/Ibaka's of the world while also handling the Duncan's and Howards.

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« Reply #352 on: July 28, 2012, 03:51:27 PM »

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You think Horford is a better defender than Gasol? Agree to not there for me, but you've watched a lot more Griz games than I have.

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« Reply #353 on: July 28, 2012, 03:59:54 PM »

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You think Horford is a better defender than Gasol? Agree to not there for me, but you've watched a lot more Griz games than I have.

In 2010 he was an allstar mostly because of his defense. I love me some Marc, but that will never be the case for him. Then in 2011, he had his strongest offensive game and became an All NBA Center.

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« Reply #354 on: July 28, 2012, 04:11:38 PM »

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You think Horford is a better defender than Gasol? Agree to not there for me, but you've watched a lot more Griz games than I have.

In 2010 he was an allstar mostly because of his defense. I love me some Marc, but that will never be the case for him. Then in 2011, he had his strongest offensive game and became an All NBA Center.

Who is the first option, second option, third option? I ask mostly bc of Rudy Gay. I like Horford and Aldridge together on offense. Still thinking about defense. But Gay has never shown that he could play well with both Gasol and ZBO. Now while a lot of that is due to injuries the times ZBO, Gasol, and Gay did play together there wasn't a great deal of continuity. Some of that is on Zbo and his passing out of the post.

Some of that is because both players, I believe, want to be the man on offense. 2 years ago it was Zbo and last year it was Gay. In my opinion Gay will end up being the alpha dog on this team. Horford has always deferred to Joe Johnson and LA deferred to Roy for a very long time. I can see them deferring to Gay. Thing is, is that I am not sure that's a good thing.

How do you keep Gay involved and still utilize your strength in the paint?


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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #355 on: July 28, 2012, 04:18:35 PM »

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You think Horford is a better defender than Gasol? Agree to not there for me, but you've watched a lot more Griz games than I have.

In 2010 he was an allstar mostly because of his defense. I love me some Marc, but that will never be the case for him. Then in 2011, he had his strongest offensive game and became an All NBA Center.

Who is the first option, second option, third option? I ask mostly bc of Rudy Gay. I like Horford and Aldridge together on offense. Still thinking about defense. But Gay has never shown that he could play well with both Gasol and ZBO. Now while a lot of that is due to injuries the times ZBO, Gasol, and Gay did play together there wasn't a great deal of continuity. Some of that is on Zbo and his passing out of the post.

Some of that is because both players, I believe, want to be the man on offense. 2 years ago it was Zbo and last year it was Gay. In my opinion Gay will end up being the alpha dog on this team. Horford has always deferred to Joe Johnson and LA deferred to Roy for a very long time. I can see them deferring to Gay. Thing is, is that I am not sure that's a good thing.

How do you keep Gay involved and still utilize your strength in the paint?


Actually one of the most remarkable things about Gay is how once he made the leap, his production has been consistent no matter who was on the team. When they drafted OJ Mayo and Marc came over he averaged 19 ppg. When they added Zbo his scoring stayed the same. When Zbo was out but Conley and Gasol were elevating Rudy didn't get in their way but he didn't defer and kept his production the same. That's why he's an ideal fit on this team, he's able to be consistently productive with All Star teammates but he's also morphed into this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKr-SZ3-AAE


Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #356 on: July 28, 2012, 04:22:34 PM »

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You think Horford is a better defender than Gasol? Agree to not there for me, but you've watched a lot more Griz games than I have.

In 2010 he was an allstar mostly because of his defense. I love me some Marc, but that will never be the case for him. Then in 2011, he had his strongest offensive game and became an All NBA Center.

Who is the first option, second option, third option? I ask mostly bc of Rudy Gay. I like Horford and Aldridge together on offense. Still thinking about defense. But Gay has never shown that he could play well with both Gasol and ZBO. Now while a lot of that is due to injuries the times ZBO, Gasol, and Gay did play together there wasn't a great deal of continuity. Some of that is on Zbo and his passing out of the post.

Some of that is because both players, I believe, want to be the man on offense. 2 years ago it was Zbo and last year it was Gay. In my opinion Gay will end up being the alpha dog on this team. Horford has always deferred to Joe Johnson and LA deferred to Roy for a very long time. I can see them deferring to Gay. Thing is, is that I am not sure that's a good thing.

How do you keep Gay involved and still utilize your strength in the paint?


Actually one of the most remarkable things about Gay is how once he made the leap, his production has been consistent no matter who was on the team. When they drafted OJ Mayo and Marc came over he averaged 19 ppg. When they added Zbo his scoring stayed the same. When Zbo was out but Conley and Gasol were elevating Rudy didn't get in their way but he didn't defer and kept his production the same. That's why he's an ideal fit on this team, he's able to be consistently productive with All Star teammates but he's also morphed into this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKr-SZ3-AAE

Good response. So Rudy Gay will be the leader of this team and the guy who will have the ball in the crucial moments of close games?

After all there is only one ball. In the real NBA OKC gives it to Harden or KD, the Lakers give it to Kobe, Boston to Pierce or Rondo, and Miami to Wade and James. Clearly you won't give it to TA, but what about Holiday? Do you trust him? Or is it Rudy Gay or bust as far as make the right decision to win us the game.


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Re: 2012 - CB Draft: "How's My Team Look?"
« Reply #357 on: July 28, 2012, 05:02:43 PM »

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so here's a question:

are you guys (lake show) comfortable with your vet leadership right now or is that something you plan to target in the next few rounds? i love the makeup of the team but not a ton of playoff success individually - again, something that can always be addressed in due time.

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« Reply #358 on: July 28, 2012, 05:12:18 PM »

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so here's a question:

are you guys (lake show) comfortable with your vet leadership right now or is that something you plan to target in the next few rounds? i love the makeup of the team but not a ton of playoff success individually - again, something that can always be addressed in due time.

Nah, it's not really a concern. Especially not with the playoff success Tony's had as well as Horford's pedigree. both of whom, to answer Kane's question, we feel are the leader's of the team, whereas we trust Rudy to make the correct decision with the ball late in games.

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« Reply #359 on: July 28, 2012, 05:45:10 PM »

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Any thoughts on the Blizz?

Billups
Johnson
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Millsap
Howard

I think i have what it takes to take the northwest from Who's Jazz assuming i'm able to round out a rotation properly.

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