Face it, Courtney Lee < Ray Allen

[gar]

People need to get real. Saying Courtney Lee could be better than Ray Allen is a stretch. Lee has done nothing to suggest that he is a Hall of Fame caliber player let alone an All-Star caliber player. He is a solid NBA player. Ray Allen has averaged 20ppg over 15+ seasons in the NBA and has a career 45% fg avg. and 40% 3p avg.
Courtney Lee's percentages are promising; but he is not a volume scorer (career avg. 10 ppg).

I hope he has alot more to show us and may be a better fit in the long run; but we lost one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA. Danny has done a great job replacing him with JET and Lee. Just hoping we can figure out how to use the flexibility that we have with this lineup.

[yupitsme]

at this point in their career Courtney Lee is the better player. so is Jason Terry.

[mctyson]

At some point in his life, Ray Allen will not be able to produce the level that you claim he will produce at next season for the Heat, which is supposedly a level of play that is better than Courtney Lee.

Maybe Ray will be better than Lee next year, but how about in 2014? Or 15? When will Ray Allen cease to be the type of player you claim he his?

[AshyLarry]

Well, yeah.

3 point champion of life > Solid contributor

[indeedproceed]

People need to get real. Saying Courtney Lee could be better than Ray Allen is a stretch. Lee has done nothing to suggest that he is a Hall of Fame caliber player let alone an All-Star caliber player. He is a solid NBA player. Ray Allen has averaged 20ppg over 15+ seasons in the NBA and has a career 45% fg avg. and 40% 3p avg.
Courtney Lee's percentages are promising; but he is not a volume scorer (career avg. 10 ppg).

I hope he has alot more to show us and may be a better fit in the long run; but we lost one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA. Danny has done a great job replacing him with JET and Lee. Just hoping we can figure out how to use the flexibility that we have with this lineup.

Yeah, I think the 'I'm glad Ray walked because Courtney Lee is better' is pretty dead wrong.

But for the role Ray Allen would've had here, I do think Lee brings some new dimensions. Better defense being most prominent.

I mean, Ray when he's healthy is a 17 ppg guy shooting 40% from 3.

But Courtney Lee, when he's healthy, is an 11 ppg spot up shooter (mostly) who still shoots 40%, but mostly because he plays within himself. He's one of those guys (like Battier) that get 'he doesn't do what he can't do' as a strength.

But Ray Allen, his role is diminishing here, his defense has really fallen off, and for what we need from Lee, I think Lee will provide it.

He's not better, he's not gonna be a danger in every close game to throw out daggers to the heart, he's not that guy. But for what we need with the wings we've got, Lee is a great option.

[TheTruthFot18]

People need to get real. Saying Courtney Lee could be better than Ray Allen is a stretch. Lee has done nothing to suggest that he is a Hall of Fame caliber player let alone an All-Star caliber player. He is a solid NBA player. Ray Allen has averaged 20ppg over 15+ seasons in the NBA and has a career 45% fg avg. and 40% 3p avg.
Courtney Lee's percentages are promising; but he is not a volume scorer (career avg. 10 ppg).

I hope he has alot more to show us and may be a better fit in the long run; but we lost one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA. Danny has done a great job replacing him with JET and Lee. Just hoping we can figure out how to use the flexibility that we have with this lineup.

When did ray average over 20ppg in boston? Must have missed those years 

Your point is correct in saying career vs career, Ray by a long shot. But what the Celtics need right now, Lee is the absolute favorite. We lost Ray? for what we'd pay him we can get more from Lee or Terry, at a cheaper price, an without all the whining.

[WsAllDay]

this just in Lee Plays for the C's Allen somewhere in Florida lets get  behind Lee and stop comparing him to a 25 year old ray allen

[indeedproceed]

this just in Lee Plays for the C's Allen somewhere in Florida lets get  behind Lee and stop comparing him to a 25 year old ray allen

Ray Allen is 25 years old?


AND WE LET HIM WALK?!

[esel1000]

at this point in their career Courtney Lee is the better player. so is Jason Terry.

This.

Courtney Lee >one trick pony

Jason Terry > one trick pony

Courtney Lee and Jason Terry > way better than the one trick pony


Oh and Courtney Lee is a better defender than Ray has ever been...

[bucknersrevenge]

at this point in their career Courtney Lee is the better player. so is Jason Terry.

TP.

This is what it is. It's not so much he's better, but for our team and our roster he's a better fit. Ray has an elite level skill which is what makes him better. But what Lee does, and how he goes about scoring his points is gonna work much better for all involved. Basically a corner spot up shooter with a lot of athleticism. When he's not spotting up he slashes to the rim off cuts which is perfect for Rondo. Not to mention he helps improve our offensive efficiency from several standpoints.

For one, Lee will run with Rondo and as a result the fast break will be more effective as a whole and more often get easy points for this team. Also, far fewer offensive fouls will be called on our bigs trying to set the appropriate screen for Ray to get open. When that set isn't a turnover what also tends to happen is that play takes too long to unfold and if it isn't perfect often times winds up with a poor offensive set resulting in a forced shot with the clock winding down. I expect to see fewer problems there and these differences cannot be overstated.

[LarBrd33]

Ray actually shot fantastic during the regular season.  During the playoffs he played with a major injury and deserves credit for gutting it out. 

Obviously Lee will never be Ray Allen in his prime.  Boston Celtics Ray Allen was never even Ray Allen in his prime.  By the time Ray got to Boston, he was already a different player than the one who played on the Bucks and Sonics.  But if we're comparing 27 year old Courtney Lee to 37 year old Ray Allen... it might be comparable.  Supposedly Lee is a really strong defender.  Lee doesn't appear to have Ray's shooting ability, but he could theoretically see his shooting percentages raise with a point guard like Rondo, players like Pierce and KG commanding attention from defenders... and a more defined system than the one he had been playing in.  We'll see.  I'm excited to see how he does, though.

[Neurotic Guy]

At some point in his life, Ray Allen will not be able to produce the level that you claim he will produce at next season for the Heat, which is supposedly a level of play that is better than Courtney Lee.

Maybe Ray will be better than Lee next year, but how about in 2014? Or 15? When will Ray Allen cease to be the type of player you claim he his?

I think Lee may give the C's more next year than Ray would have. 

One interesting side note though: We said the same thing about KG v. Al Jefferson -- that at some point Al is going to be better than KG.  It may be close now, but it hasn't happened yet.  Of course, Ray is 6 years older than KG was when he came here.  Hard to believe that KG was a young 31 when he arrived.

[lon3lytoaster]

Courtney Lee is a better fit. Accept it and deal with it.

Of course there career comparisons aren't even close. But as of right now, I like Lee a heck of a lot more for this team.

[TA9]

At this point of Rays career. No way he is better than Courtney.

[gar]

One thing I think we can all agree on was that Ray was not able to get open looking with the second lineup and was not able to get the kind of picks he needed to get open. So yes, Jason Terry is a better option off the bench. I just don't think Lee is capable of generating the kind of offense that we loose with Ray Gone.

I agree that Terry also give you more options because he can play point guard, come off the bench and create his own offense; but I did not say that Ray was better than JET. I said Ray is better then Courtney Lee. I just think it is important to have realistic expectations for Lee. He is not Ray Allen and may never be Ray Allen. As for his overall benefit to the team that also remains to be seen; but I hope you are all right. I just think there are a lot of people on this board (especially those that were always asking for Danny to trade Ray) the seriously underestimate just how good a player Ray was and is.

Maybe that is one reason why he left.

I hope Courtney Lee proves me wrong.