no thanks, not even at the minimum

Quote from: Jeff on July 19, 2012, 11:13:36 AM

no thanks, not even at the minimum

I know that Blatche is a knucklehead, but is he a cancer? It seems like virtually everyone who played in Washington during the last several seasons was some type of "problem" player, but I really wonder if that's more because of the terrible environment with the Wizards and less because of the players. In other words, if placed in a stable, disciplined environment (such as Boston), could a guy such as Blatche become a productive, nonharmful member of basketball society? In particular, when you consider the dearth of skilled big men, or even of guys who are just plain big, it seems almost foolish to pass on a skilled 6-11 player who could really shore up your team's front line and may come at the vet min. Is he really that bad?

Precisely. For example, let's look at Nick Young and JaVale McGee, both from the dreaded Washington environment. Young and McGee both meshed well with their new teams and only contributed to the collective team performance. They didn't cause any locker room problems or disrupt team chemistry. I think it has more to do with the notorious Wizards' environment more than the players themselves.

no thanks, not even at the minimum

Not even for the minimum? He is a knucklehead, but he has talent close to an all star (yep I said it). This guy, when straight can average 18 and 9. He has mid range game, post game, dribble game and he's no pushover on the block (defense is a little suspect).

I'd take him for the minimum, for the BAE even. I know he's a rough surface that needs to be smoothed, and we have the veterans and the coaching to do that.

Quote from: rocknrollforyoursoul on July 19, 2012, 11:33:30 AM

Quote from: Jeff on July 19, 2012, 11:13:36 AM

no thanks, not even at the minimum

I know that Blatche is a knucklehead, but is he a cancer? It seems like virtually everyone who played in Washington during the last several seasons was some type of "problem" player, but I really wonder if that's more because of the terrible environment with the Wizards and less because of the players. In other words, if placed in a stable, disciplined environment (such as Boston), could a guy such as Blatche become a productive, nonharmful member of basketball society? In particular, when you consider the dearth of skilled big men, or even of guys who are just plain big, it seems almost foolish to pass on a skilled 6-11 player who could really shore up your team's front line and may come at the vet min. Is he really that bad?

Precisely. For example, let's look at Nick Young and JaVale McGee, both from the dreaded Washington environment. Young and McGee both meshed well with their new teams and only contributed to the collective team performance. They didn't cause any locker room problems or disrupt team chemistry. I think it has more to do with the notorious Wizards' environment more than the players themselves.

Agreed.

People are so willing to blame the players, but Javale and Nick are good examples of guys who were able to get comfortable in other organizations. Washington management and the Flip Saunders coaching staff have as much culpability as any of those players - the let the Gilbert Arenas show play out like a circus, they allowed that "me first, team last" culture permeate through everything they did. They're trying to clean it up now, so why can't the players get a fresh start.

Andray is 25, 6'11" and very skilled. Its amazing that so many of you ready to pass on him are begging for Chris Andersen. If there's a choice, Andray in a heartbeat. He's young enough that he can still turn it around and become a very productive player. As for as Chris Anderson - well... if I wanted to root for a sexual predator, I'd be a Lakers fan.

Notice, the other two players were traded.



Blatche got kicked out.  No one wanted to pick him up.  


Stay away from him.  He has never listened to a coach.  He has admitted his game is soft.  

Some fans have too much pride in letting this type of guy in the organization.

They prefer playing it sage rather than taking risks. Some people would rather have a gimpy Leon power back than Blatxhe.

I am not one of those fans. As currently constituted we at best have a punters chance of making it to the finals. There is no logical reason to not tale on a low risk high reward guy.

Quote from: LEHGOCELTICS on July 19, 2012, 11:52:35 AM

Quote from: rocknrollforyoursoul on July 19, 2012, 11:33:30 AM

Quote from: Jeff on July 19, 2012, 11:13:36 AM

no thanks, not even at the minimum

I know that Blatche is a knucklehead, but is he a cancer? It seems like virtually everyone who played in Washington during the last several seasons was some type of "problem" player, but I really wonder if that's more because of the terrible environment with the Wizards and less because of the players. In other words, if placed in a stable, disciplined environment (such as Boston), could a guy such as Blatche become a productive, nonharmful member of basketball society? In particular, when you consider the dearth of skilled big men, or even of guys who are just plain big, it seems almost foolish to pass on a skilled 6-11 player who could really shore up your team's front line and may come at the vet min. Is he really that bad?

Precisely. For example, let's look at Nick Young and JaVale McGee, both from the dreaded Washington environment. Young and McGee both meshed well with their new teams and only contributed to the collective team performance. They didn't cause any locker room problems or disrupt team chemistry. I think it has more to do with the notorious Wizards' environment more than the players themselves.

Agreed.

People are so willing to blame the players, but Javale and Nick are good examples of guys who were able to get comfortable in other organizations. Washington management and the Flip Saunders coaching staff have as much culpability as any of those players - the let the Gilbert Arenas show play out like a circus, they allowed that "me first, team last" culture permeate through everything they did. They're trying to clean it up now, so why can't the players get a fresh start.

Andray is 25, 6'11" and very skilled. Its amazing that so many of you ready to pass on him are begging for Chris Andersen. If there's a choice, Andray in a heartbeat. He's young enough that he can still turn it around and become a very productive player. As for as Chris Anderson - well... if I wanted to root for a sexual predator, I'd be a Lakers fan.

TP LOL

At his size, I could see him as a JO clone. Bring him at C and let KG show him how to play that position as a PF during the more common small ball league.

The Wizards had ZERO veterans on their team. They went from gun and overpaid contract issues for injury prone Arenas to a young squad with no leadership.
At the minimum, I'd take him.
And that's only b/c KG could help him. And if he played to his potential, it could help Rondo