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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2012, 01:42:12 AM »

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Why is it so wrong to think Rondo is the best PG in the NBA.

All CP3 does better than Rondo is shoot, everything else, I believe Rondo is slightly better, yet in these parts, a lot of people think Rose, Westbrook and even Deron is better than Rondo when all those guys are being paid max money....Rondo is IMO the best bargain PG in the NBA.  His jerseys alone sell better than everyone else.


Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2012, 01:54:31 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3
    

  

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2012, 02:07:24 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3
    

  
good post with the magic numbers. TP

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2012, 02:13:22 AM »

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The Rondo arguement will never be over unless he learns how to shot and score at will bc that's all the media members have to discredit Rajon, even though hes the persona of a prototypical point guard, but haters gonna hate!

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2012, 02:20:00 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3
    

  

Just sent this to my friend in NY (hates Rondo) via facebook. Passing it off as Hollinger's.  ;D
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2012, 03:47:10 AM »

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The Rondo arguement will never be over unless he learns how to shot and score at will bc that's all the media members have to discredit Rajon, even though hes the persona of a prototypical point guard, but haters gonna hate!
TP but they still would find something to complain about :)

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2012, 04:51:14 AM »

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Ive noticed a lot of people are taken aback by Rondo's recent comments proclaiming himself the best PG in the league. I thought after Magic crowning him the best in the league, after the 4 playoff triple-doubles, the 44 point game, and the assist streak that it was Rondo or Chris Paul. Those are the guys. I know some folks still stand by Deron Williams or D Rose as the best but some folks think Manu is better than Kobe as well. Am I wrong in my sense that the media now considers Rondo the best of the best?
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2012, 06:39:15 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3

  In terms of passing Rondo had one of the more dominant (compared to the rest of the league) postseasons ever. He had the 7 highest games for assists in the playoffs and 9 of the top 10. He had just over half of all the games with 10 or more assists. He had just over 4 more assists/game than anyone else in the league, the 4th highest margin ever.
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2012, 07:40:58 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3

  In terms of passing Rondo had one of the more dominant (compared to the rest of the league) postseasons ever. He had the 7 highest games for assists in the playoffs and 9 of the top 10. He had just over half of all the games with 10 or more assists. He had just over 4 more assists/game than anyone else in the league, the 4th highest margin ever.


TP.. And what are PG's supposed to do again? Oh thats right.. DISTRIBUTE

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2012, 10:47:01 AM »

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I prefer PGs that can get their teams to advance in the playoffs.  Rondo and Westbrook did the best job this past year doing that.  

CP3 had a rather pedestrian playoffs, barely getting his team by the Griz, and then getting swept by the Spurs.  17/5/8 are decent numbers, but the 42/33% shooting was middling and he barely got to the line, 1.7 FTs attempted a game.

There's no doubt what NBA PG elevates his game in the playoffs. Rondo scores at a 50% higher rate, rebounds at a 40% higher rate, and assists at a 15% higher clip in the post season.  Rondo's 17 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 12 assists in 2012 are great playoff numbers, almost catching Magic's career playoff marks of 19.5/7.7/12.3

  In terms of passing Rondo had one of the more dominant (compared to the rest of the league) postseasons ever. He had the 7 highest games for assists in the playoffs and 9 of the top 10. He had just over half of all the games with 10 or more assists. He had just over 4 more assists/game than anyone else in the league, the 4th highest margin ever.


TP.. And what are PG's supposed to do again? Oh thats right.. DISTRIBUTE


I'm actually going to say a point guard's role is to orchestrate the offense.

Since most teams are different, most point guards are expected to do different things.  You look at a guy like D.Rose, where their entire offense is rolling around his ability to attack the basket and dish out, and  you see he's going to have to score.

CP3 is basically the coach of the Clippers--I'm sure Vinny doesn't call plays--and you can see it when he's moving players around, shouting at people, and only puts up his shot when its the best option.

Westbrook's another one... the Thunder need him to hit those pull up jumpers, because if he doesn't all they've got to do is pay attention to Durant. Any team can beat Kevin Durant, but not many teams can beat Durant and Westbrook both going off at the same time.

Deron Williams's job... is to loaf around the last two seasons because his teams sucks and he's a Debbie Downer, then show up for some hilarious yet-inconsequential-event like dropping 57 on the Bobcats or shutting down Linsanity.


Point being, Rondo's the best player for the Celtic's offense, and all the other Superstar PG's tend to be the right guys for their own team's.
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2012, 10:54:43 AM »

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Green goggles sure but I think he's right.  I wouldn't trade him for Chris Paul at this point.

I think his competitive fire is going to push him to keep getting better and never give in.
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2012, 11:01:42 AM »

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Green goggles sure but I think he's right.  I wouldn't trade him for Chris Paul at this point.

I think his competitive fire is going to push him to keep getting better and never give in.
I wouldn't trade him for Chris Paul at this point, but that's only because of the salary difference. If they are making the same money, CP3 is the better deal. Sorry Rondo.   :-[

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2012, 11:03:25 AM »

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Green goggles sure but I think he's right.  I wouldn't trade him for Chris Paul at this point.

I think his competitive fire is going to push him to keep getting better and never give in.
I wouldn't trade him for Chris Paul at this point, but that's only because of the salary difference. If they are making the same money, CP3 is the better deal. Sorry Rondo.   :-[

Yeah I understand I'm in the minority on this one but I feel very certain about that.  And I didn't before this season.  I was for the Rondo for CP3 trade. 

This post season solidified it for me.  Rondo's my man.
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Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2012, 11:49:18 AM »

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Too many terrific PG in the league. Is Rondo one of the best PG? For sure. Is he best? No. Is CP3 best? No. Derrick Rose or DWilliams? No and no.

Just there is no best PG in the league. There are too different and too multidimensional to compare, they play for different team with different roles.

Re: I thought the Rondo arguement was over
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 11:51:42 AM »

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It depends on what your expecatations are and what exactly you envision the duties of a PG are.

There are a ton of incredible PGs in the league right now but their games vary to several extremes.  Some are better scorers than others while some of the others might be better at setting the offense.  You have streakers and jump shooters.

Basically, it comes down to what your preference is for a PG. 


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