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Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2012, 09:56:05 PM »

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would rather give his minutes to a young guy
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Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2012, 10:03:46 PM »

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Not to rain on everyone's parade here but Delfino is the definition of a chucker. The last 3 years as a buck he has averaged about 5 three point attempts a game and connected on 36% of them which isn't really that impressive for someone who takes that many a game.  His overall FG% last year was 40%.  Is that really what were looking for right now? Maybe, but he should not be compared at all to Courtney Lee who is younger and still getting better.

All that said he wouldn't be a bad option for us this deep into free agency but I don't see the guys on this team watching him hoist up shot after shot.  Were not the bucks who have the best chuckers in the league.. jennings, ellis, delfino... just saying different type of team.

how is 36% on 5 3pt shots per game bad? Why would his % be better because he takes a lot of 3's? that makes no sense at all......

Because on this blog site people nit pick EVERYTHING and once you see him putting up that many shots a game people will complain he shoots to much or doesnt shoot a good % and ultimately compare his shooting to ray allen, which is dumb, but that is what people ultimately do here. They get way to excited about guys (for example when Blatche got amnestied and people actually think he would come here as a free agent and get 10 minutes a night) or over analyze things and become to critical.  I'm just giving the #'s because no one else did and looking at it realistically.

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2012, 10:05:53 PM »

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I'd be fine with Delfino, and I'm sure other names will make the rounds on twitter with Boston as a landing spot--Redd, Delonte, Belinelli, Randy Foye, John Lucas...but it will probably end up being Peaches and Dooling again, right?

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2012, 10:11:00 PM »

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It'd be a good pickup.  People can debate pros and cons; however, as I outlined in another post, once Bradley is healthy, I don't know how much PT there is going to be for anyone outside of Terry at the backup 1 and 2 spots. 

If we net someone like Delfino for what should only be a max of 10-15 mpg (if that) once Bradley comes back, it's a good move and phenomenal for depth. 

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2012, 10:16:06 PM »

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Not to rain on everyone's parade here but Delfino is the definition of a chucker. The last 3 years as a buck he has averaged about 5 three point attempts a game and connected on 36% of them which isn't really that impressive for someone who takes that many a game.  His overall FG% last year was 40%.  Is that really what were looking for right now? Maybe, but he should not be compared at all to Courtney Lee who is younger and still getting better.

All that said he wouldn't be a bad option for us this deep into free agency but I don't see the guys on this team watching him hoist up shot after shot.  Were not the bucks who have the best chuckers in the league.. jennings, ellis, delfino... just saying different type of team.

how is 36% on 5 3pt shots per game bad? Why would his % be better because he takes a lot of 3's? that makes no sense at all......

Because on this blog site people nit pick EVERYTHING and once you see him putting up that many shots a game people will complain he shoots to much or doesnt shoot a good % and ultimately compare his shooting to ray allen, which is dumb, but that is what people ultimately do here. They get way to excited about guys (for example when Blatche got amnestied and people actually think he would come here as a free agent and get 10 minutes a night) or over analyze things and become to critical.  I'm just giving the #'s because no one else did and looking at it realistically.
What do you think you'll get for 3 mil a year?? You get what you pay for, in this case...

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2012, 10:19:00 PM »

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Eh what does he give us that Pietrus doesn't. I would give Pietrus 1 year the 1.8 deal and give him a player option for next season. Don't mind Delfino and would take him if peaches is way gone.

Ive never liked delfino but he would be a decent option as he is a pretty good role player. But like you say I would much rather just resign Petey. He knows the system, likes it here, likes the players on our team, and I like his game for us... As long as he stays on his feet.

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2012, 10:19:28 PM »

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Just some info on 3pt shooting % leaders last year.

4th- Ray Allen
21st- Courtney Lee
50th- Jason Terry
51st- Belinelli
65th- Paul Pierce
70th- OJ Mayo
71st- Shannon Brown
78th- Carlos Delfino
98th- Pietrus

Just for an idea of how well a % these guys shot from the 3pt line.  

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2012, 10:25:49 PM »

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Not to rain on everyone's parade here but Delfino is the definition of a chucker. The last 3 years as a buck he has averaged about 5 three point attempts a game and connected on 36% of them which isn't really that impressive for someone who takes that many a game.  His overall FG% last year was 40%.  Is that really what were looking for right now? Maybe, but he should not be compared at all to Courtney Lee who is younger and still getting better.

All that said he wouldn't be a bad option for us this deep into free agency but I don't see the guys on this team watching him hoist up shot after shot.  Were not the bucks who have the best chuckers in the league.. jennings, ellis, delfino... just saying different type of team.

how is 36% on 5 3pt shots per game bad? Why would his % be better because he takes a lot of 3's? that makes no sense at all......

Because on this blog site people nit pick EVERYTHING and once you see him putting up that many shots a game people will complain he shoots to much or doesnt shoot a good % and ultimately compare his shooting to ray allen, which is dumb, but that is what people ultimately do here. They get way to excited about guys (for example when Blatche got amnestied and people actually think he would come here as a free agent and get 10 minutes a night) or over analyze things and become to critical.  I'm just giving the #'s because no one else did and looking at it realistically.
What do you think you'll get for 3 mil a year?? You get what you pay for, in this case...

I totally agree with you, he wouldn't be a bad option at all. My point is this isn't someone to get excited for because we are ultimately only looking for a someone to do one thing... score and be a good 3 point shooter, which he really isn't that good at (averaging 9 PPG in 29 minutes last year) or efficient at.  He shot 40% overall, which is not good at all.

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2012, 10:27:10 PM »

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Eh what does he give us that Pietrus doesn't. I would give Pietrus 1 year the 1.8 deal and give him a player option for next season. Don't mind Delfino and would take him if peaches is way gone.

Delfino is an excellent ballhandler and passer for the position. He has a higher basketball IQ than Pietrus. Is not as streaky. He also has a mid-range game and does take it to the basket, something which MP doesn't seem to want to do anymore.

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2012, 10:29:32 PM »

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The only concern I have for Delfino is whether or not he can defend 2s. Otherwise he'd be a great addition. He's the type of guy we'd love here. Super-hustle defender and tough. Used to guard 2s and 3s but wary now of him against quicker guys.

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Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2012, 10:37:11 PM »

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Eh what does he give us that Pietrus doesn't. I would give Pietrus 1 year the 1.8 deal and give him a player option for next season. Don't mind Delfino and would take him if peaches is way gone.


Probably that he'd be cheaper than Pie. People keep forgetting that Pie made like 6mil last season, not just the VM LOL.

No disrespect meant to Peaches, but the Suns overpaid him, realized it, and that's why they bought him out.  

Again, I love the dude, but if he thinks he's getting anywhere near $6 million this season, he's crazier than I thought he was.

Personally, I think he'd take somewhere just shy of $2 million to be a Boston Celtic again.  I don't think the problem is that he's holding out for the big bucks, but that he hasn't been offered any bucks yet.  



For sure he isn't worth that but we can't even give him 2m... he is surely worth that! I bet some team is even willing to give him over 2m but he just may take less b/c he loves it here. I bet they haven't offered him the BAE (they could have already) because they probably believe he won't take it. He has said already said that the money has to be right for him to come back even if he really wants to. Gotta believe he is down to his last chances on making as much as he can.
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Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2012, 11:03:22 PM »

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Delfino was someone I thought C's would have interest in immediately this season. I'm thinking we're going after Lee because of his history with Doc. Delfino on the other hand is slightly better than Lee. He's a combo guard & very good defensive player in the passing lanes or one on one. Get Er' Done!

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2012, 11:16:11 PM »

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Not to rain on everyone's parade here but Delfino is the definition of a chucker. The last 3 years as a buck he has averaged about 5 three point attempts a game and connected on 36% of them which isn't really that impressive for someone who takes that many a game.  His overall FG% last year was 40%.  Is that really what were looking for right now? Maybe, but he should not be compared at all to Courtney Lee who is younger and still getting better.

All that said he wouldn't be a bad option for us this deep into free agency but I don't see the guys on this team watching him hoist up shot after shot.  Were not the bucks who have the best chuckers in the league.. jennings, ellis, delfino... just saying different type of team.

how is 36% on 5 3pt shots per game bad? Why would his % be better because he takes a lot of 3's? that makes no sense at all......

Lets say CD does 36% for us and Ray would have done 45% which is probably too high while the 36% is probably fair

if they took 5 shots a game each, cd's worse performance costs us about a point a game on average. It all adds up but with more steals and more physical d that 1 point is mitigated

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2012, 11:18:14 PM »

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Not to rain on everyone's parade here but Delfino is the definition of a chucker. The last 3 years as a buck he has averaged about 5 three point attempts a game and connected on 36% of them which isn't really that impressive for someone who takes that many a game.  His overall FG% last year was 40%.  Is that really what were looking for right now? Maybe, but he should not be compared at all to Courtney Lee who is younger and still getting better.

All that said he wouldn't be a bad option for us this deep into free agency but I don't see the guys on this team watching him hoist up shot after shot.  Were not the bucks who have the best chuckers in the league.. jennings, ellis, delfino... just saying different type of team.

how is 36% on 5 3pt shots per game bad? Why would his % be better because he takes a lot of 3's? that makes no sense at all......

Lets say CD does 36% for us and Ray would have done 45% which is probably too high while the 36% is probably fair

if they took 5 shots a game each, cd's worse performance costs us about a point a game on average. It all adds up but with more steals and more physical d that 1 point is mitigated

add rondo,pp and KG to the equation and how many open 3's he would get.....

Re: Celtics Interested in Carlos Delfino
« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2012, 11:20:41 PM »

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Delfino would be a great fit here.  I'd prefer him to Pietrus given his atrocious playoff shooting.  He'd make a great BAE candidate if he'd take it.