Danny's Free Agent mistake... IMO

[GreenFaith1819]

As much as I love KG and hype him up on CBlog, his days of playing PF consistently are behind him.

I'd rather he draw the likes of Bosh into a Center vs Center duel, rather than Bosh getting him on the perimeter in a PF vs PF duel.

Glad that Bass is back, in that regard.

Unfortunately that causes a Lebron vs. Bass duel.

Bass didn't do THAT bad vs LeBron - in stretches.

But NOW? we have Jeff Green to throw at him. Paul will spend some time on LeBron, too.

Do I expect either to make a great impact vs LeBron? Nope - not at this stage of LeBron's development. But in future matchups vs MIA, I'd be willing to concede LeBron's output - BECAUSE -

We have Avery Bradley. For me, take Wade out of the equation (which AB certainly will do), and then you have One Man Gang left.

I'm not worried about One Man Gang. Let him get his.

I will LOVE seeing 22 year-old AB vs 31 year-old Wade. Wade is still a great player, but AB plays him well defensively.

Advantage: BOS. Not worried about a Bass vs Lebron duel, in the slightest.

[Celtics4ever]

I am really happy with the Terry signing.  Ray left us out to dry folks not Danny.   Danny got burnt and it was payback.   Still some bigs being amnestied here and there so there is hope.

[GreenFaith1819]

come on ..hindsite is what it is ....who cares ...what if...

Danny did a [dang] good job overall.  I'm with Roy , if you trade for somebody actually trade up to someone who will make an certain impact.

We are one of the VERY VERY few teams that have a  "REAL PLAN",  with still staying competitive and trying to bring in new players .   Most of these teams I see have NO DIRECTION, but do all kinds of crazy moves to get a bunch of players together that don't really make up a  ..."TEAM"  

We have a SYSTEM , not a shoot at hip thrown a bunch of big name players together and see what happens.

This team has a way of doing thinds and needs people all on the same page  and thats something 90% of the other teams wish they had.

Good points.

We are San Antonio EAST. BOS's not going anywhere for 2-3 years. Neither is San Antonio.

[gar]

Great moves. Yes you can second guess. What if we did not sign Terry and kept Ray. What if we got a big instead of Terry; but what if we got Center and Ray left. Terry would be long gone and we would be high and dry.

Good job. Wilcox is a running big with a decent midrange game. Bass' game was very consistent. Add Sulinger in the mix and we are set for bigs. The real need was for a Combo Guard who can create his own offense. Ray cannot do that and therefore will never be able to come off the bench. We have reloaded with solid defensive players, better  athleticism (Green, Wilcox, JET) and plenty of fire power.

[tenn_smoothie]

We are one of the VERY VERY few teams that have a  "REAL PLAN",  with still staying competitive and trying to bring in new players .   Most of these teams I see have NO DIRECTION, but do all kinds of crazy moves to get a bunch of players together that don't really make up a  ..."TEAM" 

We have a SYSTEM , not a shoot at hip thrown a bunch of big name players together and see what happens.

oh, you mean the way Danny used to run things before he lucked into acquiring Kevin Garnett.
KG is the one who has brought stability, not Danny Trade-O-Matic Ainge.

i want to see #5 in the rafters one day.

on a lighter note, i was laughing so hard watching the Blatche triple-double video, i almost fell out of my chair. what an idiot.

[GreenFaith1819]

We are one of the VERY VERY few teams that have a  "REAL PLAN",  with still staying competitive and trying to bring in new players .   Most of these teams I see have NO DIRECTION, but do all kinds of crazy moves to get a bunch of players together that don't really make up a  ..."TEAM"  

We have a SYSTEM , not a shoot at hip thrown a bunch of big name players together and see what happens.

oh, you mean the way Danny used to run things before he lucked into acquiring Kevin Garnett - KG is the one who has brought stability and demanded a team-first attitude, not Danny Trade-O-Matic Ainge.

I don't think Danny lucked into acquiring KG. If I'm not mistaken, as others have noted on here before - Danny drafted well (Big Al, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, etc)..built those prospects up until they drew interest.

Then he pulled the trigger on Two Trades:

First, we got the 5th pick in the 07-08 draft - which he decided to trade for Ray Allen.

The amazing thing is that we NOW have Jeff Green back.

Then, once Ray was here, KG agreed to come. Thus, Danny pulled the trigger on trading Big Al and Co to Minny for him. Don't forget that Big Al was looking VERY good after his 16 pts and 11 reb season that year prior to the trade.

We have Sullinger, which was a top 5 prospect until his alleged back issues. Sully will contribute significantly this season - especially since he SHOULD have a HUGE chip on his shoulder.

Fab Melo will see some time, too - especially with Stiem being gone more than likely. Throw in Kris Joseph and the fact that he's showed some promise, and Danny's done well, IMO.

Throw in how E'Twuan has looked this Summer League and JJ's potential, as well.

Danny's done well, and it continues. I dislike the fallout with this Ray Allen mess, and the Perk trade had me sore for a min, but the team is heading in the right direction.

Looking back, Danny did absolutely the RIGHT thing. Even IF we would've rcvd the 1st or 2nd pick that year, Neither a healthy Greg Oden nor a Kevin Durant were going to get us Banner 17 - that year or even the next year.

Neither of these guys are KG. Neither of them command the same presence as KG - yet. We'd be a happy "Playoff" team with either of those two, but not contenders - even now.

We'd still be sitting on Banner 16 if it wasn't for some moves made by Danny.

[Ish Tov]

When I saw the subject, I thought this was going to be about signing Jeff Green to a four year deal for $30M something.  Bass proved that he can be a solid starter on a deep run playoff team.  Jeff Green didn't really show that when he last played.

The Bass contract is very reasonable.  Three years at a little over mid-level; just a little more than most teams could have and would have offered.  With Green, I feel like Ainge was bidding against himself.  I don't think other teams would have given him more than two years at mid level because he has been out for a year and because of the medical risk.

I wonder if the delay in finalizing Green's contract is due to the Celtics making the 3rd and 4th year dependent on minutes played in the first two years.

[TripleOT]

I'd rather have Courtney Lee and a vetmin rebounder like Reggie Evans for the money they spent on Bass. 

 

[tenn_smoothie]

i'm quite content with what they agreed to with Brandon Bass - he is just a good, solid player and i'm glad he will be back.

on the other hand - why did Danny pay Green so much ?

he is still trying to justify the Perk trade, which to this point has been a complete disaster - Danny has some strange non-sexual crush on Jeff Green - the guy is not a $10-mill a year player and the thing that bothers me most about him was his lack of an appetite for battle - he played soft and melted under the pressure of the playoffs two years ago.

[Atzar]

Meh.  Danny has had a good offseason, in my opinion.  Would have liked a good rebounding big, but frankly there just weren't any out there for the money we had to offer.  Definitely content with the job Ainge has done overall.

[Texstyles]

The only mistake that Danny has made in this FA was resigning Bass.  Don't get me wrong I respect what he did for us last year and do not deny his talent, but that same talent was the talent that teams would want in a Sign and Trade.  KG could play the starting PF like he wanted with Sully and JJJ backing him up and Bass would have gotten us the SG we need.  Then we would stil need a Center ( Blache, Darko, Steamer )  IMO I would take a chance on Blatche with Bass netting us lets say Lee.  We would look like this right now.

Rondo/Terry/Moore
Lee/Bradley
Pierce/Green/ Joseph
KG/ Sully/JJJ
Blatche/Wilcox/Melo

Not that this was a huge mistake because our squad is also good but I beleive this would be a notch better. A lot of these players are interchangeable for a countless lineup flexibility.

seriously?  get rid of Bass and pick up Blatche?  Seriously?  has to be right up there as one of the worst ideas of the offseason

Im not saying trade Bass for Blatche.  It is more of what would you rather have ?

Bass and Delfino ( as i read we were interested in ) or
Blatche and Lee.

I chose Blatche and Lee because of the reasons I mentioned above.

[Bankshot]

I was hoping to get an upgrade over Bass, but absent an upgrade, what choice do we have.  

Was there a chance to upgrade Bass' position that I don't know about?  Not getting David West really hurt.

[Texstyles]

The only problem with the OP was mentioning Blatche. I understand finding a bigger impact player than Bass though (if possible)

I chose Blatche because out of whats left that can play the Center spot, I think if he got his act together his talent is the best out there.  I think going from a team like Washington to a team like Boston might be all he needs.  Washington has not been relevent since Arenas shot up the locker room.

I think because i used Blatche as an example the point I was trying to make was missed.

Bass prob. would have got you Lee or Mayo, and with KG, Sully, JJJ that can play PF and I would do that.

[Fafnir]

The only problem with the OP was mentioning Blatche. I understand finding a bigger impact player than Bass though (if possible)

I chose Blatche because out of whats left that can play the Center spot, I think if he got his act together his talent is the best.  I think going from a team like Washington to a team like Boston might be all he needs.  Washington has not been relevent since Arenas shot up the locker room.

I think because i used Blatche as an example the point I was trying to make was missed.

Bass prob. would have got you Lee or Mayo, and with KG, Sully, JJJ that can play PF and I would do that.

Blatche isn't a C, he's a PF.

One who loves strip clubs so much that he got amnestied...

[Texstyles]

The only problem with the OP was mentioning Blatche. I understand finding a bigger impact player than Bass though (if possible)

I chose Blatche because out of whats left that can play the Center spot, I think if he got his act together his talent is the best.  I think going from a team like Washington to a team like Boston might be all he needs.  Washington has not been relevent since Arenas shot up the locker room.

I think because i used Blatche as an example the point I was trying to make was missed.

Bass prob. would have got you Lee or Mayo, and with KG, Sully, JJJ that can play PF and I would do that.

Blatche isn't a C, he's a PF.

One who loves strip clubs so much that he got amnestied...

True in Washington, but at 6'11"  260LBS he can easily move to Center  and be that athletic Center that would thrive next to Rondo.