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Offline jyyzzoel

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if i was them i would be unhappy to say the least. just scroll to the bottom of the page and there's like a million fan statements. my personal fav, because it just gets to the point of what they all must be feeling is - "It's just embarrassing to be associated with this franchise":

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2012/7/17/3166269/its-official-jeremy-lin-is-a-rocket#comments

and james dolan getting his wikipedia page hijacked:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/07/new-york-knicks-owner-james-dolan-gets-hijacked-on-wikipedia/1#.UAa1fmEb-M4

Re: knicks fans reactions on lin leaving and having an incompetent owner
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 09:23:31 AM »

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season. 

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March. 

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars. 

Re: knicks fans reactions on lin leaving and having an incompetent owner
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 09:24:37 AM »

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season.  

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March.  

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars.  
Even a middle of the pack playmaking PG is a much needed piece to help this squad contend.

I wouldn't blame other teams for passing on such huge tax penalties, but the Knicks have paid similar amounts before and already have foolishly burned their Amnesty to get Chandler when they already had Amar'e.

Re: knicks fans reactions on lin leaving and having an incompetent owner
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 09:29:03 AM »

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Not a fan of Lin, think his play will completely drop. Cool story last year. Won't be a story anymore now that he's morning NY

Re: knicks fans reactions on lin leaving and having an incompetent owner
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 09:29:45 AM »

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season.  

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March.  

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars.  
Even a middle of the pack playmaking PG is a much needed piece to help this squad contend.

I wouldn't blame other teams for passing on such huge tax penalties, but the Knicks have paid similar amounts before and already have foolishly burned their Amnesty to get Chandler when they already had Amar'e.

I'm not saying it's a great move by the Knicks.  I'm just saying that it might not be the franchise-haunting move that ESPN and other media outlets seem to make it out to be.  

I think there's probably a better chance that Lin ends up being a guy who puts up 15 and 6-7 for his career than a guy who puts up 20 and 10.  That's nothing to scoff at, it's still good.  But it's not something that they can't recover from.  It's also not something that Raymond Felton hasn't done before.  

I think the bigger regret they'll probably have it from a marketing standpoint with New York's large Asian American population.  

Re: knicks fans reactions on lin leaving and having an incompetent owner
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 09:32:52 AM »

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I have a feeling Knicks fans will be changing their tune (or at least should be) soon.  

Lin caught lightning in a bottle.  He came into a perfect situation, where he was in the perfect system, where the stars were hurt, and they needed him to step up, and where he was having an incredible hotstreak.  

That led to an incredible 15 minutes of fame, and like some of the great entertainers who died at the height of their greatness, when he got injured, the flaws in his game had not yet been properly exposed, and everyone only remembers the good times.

I have a feeling once he gets settled in Houston, and the 15 minutes is up when he can't live up to the insane hype that was built on an unprecedented hot streak in a perfect situation, he is just going to be another overpaid backup PG, who no one wants.  

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 09:32:57 AM »

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season.  

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March.  

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars.  
Even a middle of the pack playmaking PG is a much needed piece to help this squad contend.

I wouldn't blame other teams for passing on such huge tax penalties, but the Knicks have paid similar amounts before and already have foolishly burned their Amnesty to get Chandler when they already had Amar'e.

I'm not saying it's a great move by the Knicks.  I'm just saying that it might not be the franchise-haunting move that ESPN and other media outlets seem to make it out to be.  

I think there's probably a better chance that Lin ends up being a guy who puts up 15 and 6-7 for his career than a guy who puts up 20 and 10.  That's nothing to scoff at, it's still good.  But it's not something that they can't recover from.  It's also not something that Raymond Felton hasn't done before.  
Since then Raymond Felton has gotten fat and Amar'e has gotten old, plus he didn't sustain that level of play for long either.

I think this current Knicks squad has so few ways to add talent that this is a silly mistake.

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 09:38:27 AM »

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Since then Raymond Felton has gotten fat and Amar'e has gotten old, plus he didn't sustain that level of play for long either.
Sure, and Lin is coming off a torn knee ligament. It's probably going to take him half of his new contract to get back to where he was.
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I dont blame the knicks management for not throwing money at this guy.

Honestly i dont think hes really that good, besides hes really not a point. My nickname for him after that thrashing by the celts was "The Turnover Machine" i think that fits...

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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2012, 09:41:09 AM »

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Since then Raymond Felton has gotten fat and Amar'e has gotten old, plus he didn't sustain that level of play for long either.
Sure, and Lin is coming off a torn knee ligament. It's probably going to take him half of his new contract to get back to where he was.
He had a meniscus tear which is a far less severe injury than a ligament injury.

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2012, 09:41:59 AM »

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Did Lin get overpaid forcing the Knicks not to be able to match?

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 09:43:46 AM »

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Did Lin get overpaid forcing the Knicks not to be able to match?

Yep.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 09:46:23 AM »

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season.  

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March.  

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars.  
Even a middle of the pack playmaking PG is a much needed piece to help this squad contend.

I wouldn't blame other teams for passing on such huge tax penalties, but the Knicks have paid similar amounts before and already have foolishly burned their Amnesty to get Chandler when they already had Amar'e.

I'm not saying it's a great move by the Knicks.  I'm just saying that it might not be the franchise-haunting move that ESPN and other media outlets seem to make it out to be.  

I think there's probably a better chance that Lin ends up being a guy who puts up 15 and 6-7 for his career than a guy who puts up 20 and 10.  That's nothing to scoff at, it's still good.  But it's not something that they can't recover from.  It's also not something that Raymond Felton hasn't done before.  
Since then Raymond Felton has gotten fat and Amar'e has gotten old, plus he didn't sustain that level of play for long either.

I think this current Knicks squad has so few ways to add talent that this is a silly mistake.

To be fair, Felton got fat during the lockout, when half the league (including some of the C's) got fat, thinking the season would be cancelled.

I think Felton will end up one of the bargains of the summer. 

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 09:47:18 AM »

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I dont blame the knicks management for not throwing money at this guy.

Honestly i dont think hes really that good, besides hes really not a point. My nickname for him after that thrashing by the celts was "The Turnover Machine" i think that fits...
You mean the game where it went to OT after the C's blew an 8 point lead in the fourth quarter and needed a ridiculous three point shot from Pierce to force OT?

He did have 6 turnovers that game which is bad and also had a "meh" game overall but a "thrashing"?

The only other time he played Boston he got about 6 minutes and got his shot blocked a few times, got an assist, and hit two free throws before he got benched again.

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I will say this, I think there's at least a shot Knicks fans are vindicated and that Lin proves to be a one hit wonder, or at least not nearly as good as he was for his midseason stretch last season.  

For instance, he averaged 21 and 8 for the month of February and then 14 and 6 for the month of March.  

Could it be the rookie wall?  Sure.  But that's an awful quick wall after one month of good play.  And that's not to say he might not have a good career, but he also might simply be a middle of the pack starting PG and not ever be anything truly special.

Still, the Knicks took a terrible PR blow here and will likely lose marketing dollars.  
Even a middle of the pack playmaking PG is a much needed piece to help this squad contend.

I wouldn't blame other teams for passing on such huge tax penalties, but the Knicks have paid similar amounts before and already have foolishly burned their Amnesty to get Chandler when they already had Amar'e.

I'm not saying it's a great move by the Knicks.  I'm just saying that it might not be the franchise-haunting move that ESPN and other media outlets seem to make it out to be.  

I think there's probably a better chance that Lin ends up being a guy who puts up 15 and 6-7 for his career than a guy who puts up 20 and 10.  That's nothing to scoff at, it's still good.  But it's not something that they can't recover from.  It's also not something that Raymond Felton hasn't done before.  

I think the bigger regret they'll probably have it from a marketing standpoint with New York's large Asian American population.  

I cosign this.  I do think from a business perspective it is a mistake from everything I've heard but I don't like Lin's fit with their roster and I don't expect him to make some sort of leap.
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