Chris Andersen amnestied

[snively]

Can he still play at a high level? I never thought he's the kind of guy who'd age well.

Long, lithe, athletic big men seem to age better than most - Camby springs to mind. 

[Chris]

Can he still play at a high level? I never thought he's the kind of guy who'd age well.

Long, lithe, athletic big men seem to age better than most - Camby springs to mind. 

Not sure I would call him "lithe".  He is a pretty big guy.  And part of the reason Camby and KG have lasted so long is because they were skilled and smart enough to adapt to playing under the rim more.  I don't think Anderser has that ability.

[Who]

Can he still play at a high level? I never thought he's the kind of guy who'd age well.

Long, lithe, athletic big men seem to age better than most - Camby springs to mind. 

Plus, Chris Andersen's playing time was only taken from him because Denver wanted to develop their young big men (Koufos, Mozgov, McGee). Not because C.Andersen was outplayed.

George Karl said this.

[snively]

Can he still play at a high level? I never thought he's the kind of guy who'd age well.

Long, lithe, athletic big men seem to age better than most - Camby springs to mind. 

Plus, Chris Andersen's playing time was only taken from him because Denver wanted to develop their young big men (Koufos, Mozgov, McGee). Not because C.Andersen was outplayed.

George Karl said this.

Good to know.

[LooseCannon]

Yeah I agree.  There is a reason why Andersen had the contract he did and has had some decent ones over the years and Hollins can hardly stay in the league.

Because some GMs are overpaying idiots?  Denver's been a poorly-run team that keeps handing out a lot of contracts in the $3-7m annual range to a collection of decent players that you can't build around.

[Professor of Rondology]

If Minny steals the Steamer from us, I'd be fine with signing Anderson for the min (if it's any more, forget it).  Other than Steamer I don't really see any decent big men still on the market.  If Ryan Hollins is being actively targeted by an NBA franchise (I know it was the Nets, but still) then clearly the pickings are pretty slim. 

[LooseCannon]

If the Celtics want a big who might give the same level of contribution that Stiemsma gave last season, I think they have to go after someone who lacks an NBA track record (just like Stiemsma did).

[Professor of Rondology]

If the Celtics want a big who might give the same level of contribution that Stiemsma gave last season, I think they have to go after someone who lacks an NBA track record (just like Stiemsma did).

I lack an NBA track record.  Call Danny and tell him to sign me.


Edit- Sorry, that was an unnecessarily mean comment.
But in all seriousness, that would be extremely risky.  We got incredibly lucky with Steamer, the odds that we find ANOTHER unproven D league C who'll have that impact are astronomical.

[Snakehead]

Yeah I agree.  There is a reason why Andersen had the contract he did and has had some decent ones over the years and Hollins can hardly stay in the league.

Because some GMs are overpaying idiots?  Denver's been a poorly-run team that keeps handing out a lot of contracts in the $3-7m annual range to a collection of decent players that you can't build around.

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Chris Andersen is a good backup C I'm not sure I get your point.

5 pts, 5 reb, 1.5 blocks in 15 mins is good.

If the Celtics want a big who might give the same level of contribution that Stiemsma gave last season, I think they have to go after someone who lacks an NBA track record (just like Stiemsma did).

I lack an NBA track record.  Call Danny and tell him to sign me.


Edit- Sorry, that was an unnecessarily mean comment.
But in all seriousness, that would be extremely risky.  We got incredibly lucky with Steamer, the odds that we find ANOTHER unproven D league C who'll have that impact are astronomical.

I don't think it was unneccessarily mean.  I don't get what he possibly could have meant.  You want to sign a random d-leaguer over Andersen and expect that to work out?    

Steimsma was a big time exception and even still he's not better than Andersen.

[LooseCannon]

Yeah I agree.  There is a reason why Andersen had the contract he did and has had some decent ones over the years and Hollins can hardly stay in the league.

Because some GMs are overpaying idiots?  Denver's been a poorly-run team that keeps handing out a lot of contracts in the $3-7m annual range to a collection of decent players that you can't build around.

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Chris Andersen is a good backup C I'm not sure I get your point.

5 pts, 5 reb, 1.5 blocks in 15 mins is good.

Andersen was overpaid.  It was clearly a bad contract when it was signed.  Too much money for too many years.  Handing a lot of contracts like that are why teams like Denver and Sacramento will never be contenders.  Andersen can be a useful player, but you will be limited as a team if you sign ten Andersen-level players to long-term contracts around $4m/year.

[Steve from Milford]

I would like to see the C's sign him so we no longer have to hear about Darko (never mind Hollins who I don't see having any chance of coming back - he's barely an NBA player at all.).

[Professor of Rondology]

Andersen was overpaid.  It was clearly a bad contract when it was signed.  Too much money for too many years.  Handing a lot of contracts like that are why teams like Denver and Sacramento will never be contenders.  Andersen can be a useful player, but you will be limited as a team if you sign ten Andersen-level players to long-term contracts around $4m/year.

One year of Anderson at the vet min could end up being a steal. The more I think about it the more I want either Anderson or Darko to end up on the Cs.  This is not b/c I am particularly fond of either of those 2 players (I personally detest both of them, actually) but b/c the last time the Celtics went a full season without a big man getting hurt was back in the pre-Big 3 era and I see almost no decent big men available at this point.

[LooseCannon]

If the Celtics want a big who might give the same level of contribution that Stiemsma gave last season, I think they have to go after someone who lacks an NBA track record (just like Stiemsma did).

I lack an NBA track record.  Call Danny and tell him to sign me.


Edit- Sorry, that was an unnecessarily mean comment.
But in all seriousness, that would be extremely risky.  We got incredibly lucky with Steamer, the odds that we find ANOTHER unproven D league C who'll have that impact are astronomical.

I don't think it was unneccessarily mean.  I don't get what he possibly could have meant.  You want to sign a random d-leaguer over Andersen and expect that to work out?    

Steimsma was a big time exception and even still he's not better than Andersen.

I don't think it is mean.  I do think there are always a few players in the D-League or in Europe who never got their shot in the NBA who are better than your typical minimum-salary NBA journeyman who still has a career because he once had an above-average season four years ago.  I would also include undrafted rookie free agents in the pool of players without a track record in the NBA.

I'm in favor of embracing risk instead of trying to get lucky and finding another team's cast-off who still has something in the tank.

I might find going after Chris Andersen or Nazr Mohammed acceptable, but I think I would rather gamble with an unproven player than try to fill out the roster with players like Tony Battie or Francisco Elson.  If I were to gamble, I'd rather get someone who wasn't drafted and has been working hard than go after a draft bust who has the physical ability but not the mental.

[rickyfan3.0...]

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[Snakehead]

If the Celtics want a big who might give the same level of contribution that Stiemsma gave last season, I think they have to go after someone who lacks an NBA track record (just like Stiemsma did).

I lack an NBA track record.  Call Danny and tell him to sign me.


Edit- Sorry, that was an unnecessarily mean comment.
But in all seriousness, that would be extremely risky.  We got incredibly lucky with Steamer, the odds that we find ANOTHER unproven D league C who'll have that impact are astronomical.

I don't think it was unneccessarily mean.  I don't get what he possibly could have meant.  You want to sign a random d-leaguer over Andersen and expect that to work out?    

Steimsma was a big time exception and even still he's not better than Andersen.

I don't think it is mean.  I do think there are always a few players in the D-League or in Europe who never got their shot in the NBA who are better than your typical minimum-salary NBA journeyman who still has a career because he once had an above-average season four years ago.  I would also include undrafted rookie free agents in the pool of players without a track record in the NBA.

I'm in favor of embracing risk instead of trying to get lucky and finding another team's cast-off who still has something in the tank.

I might find going after Chris Andersen or Nazr Mohammed acceptable, but I think I would rather gamble with an unproven player than try to fill out the roster with players like Tony Battie or Francisco Elson.  If I were to gamble, I'd rather get someone who wasn't drafted and has been working hard than go after a draft bust who has the physical ability but not the mental.

5, 5, 1.5 for the vet min for a back up Center is great.  Period.  I don't know what the complaints would be.