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Offline jyyzzoel

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i was just wondering what have been danny ainges biggest moves during ANY summer as our GM?

i also was curious what dates the signings or trades happened... because i think it's still WAY early in this summer to count out danny making a major move of some sort if the opportunity comes up.

i know of KG - july 30, 2007... which was well into summer, but i cant really remember too many more.

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pretty sure KG was the biggest but you have that down


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Signing Posey for chump change was a key move in the KG summer.  Getting Shaq for the minimum was a good move, even though it didn't pay off. Signing JT this summer was a solid move.  

When you're capped out and your Big Four are making $60m, a GM really can't do to much in the summer.  He used the MLE first on Sheed and then on JO, and both of those moves have to be classified as failures.  At the time, the Sheed signing was a big deal.  

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i disagree that shaq didnt pay off. shaq was instrumental in getting us that surge out of the gates when we went something like 33-10. without him, we wouldn't have been the #1 seed for so long.

how was sheed a failure? he was nearly flawless in the playoffs when it mattered most.

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Just to reinterate everyone else's points because I'm like that,

KG was the biggest, followed by Ray Allen. after that it got real tough. So much money tied up in 3 players.

What moves can he make? He had the MLE, and Rondo/Ray/Pierce/KG. if he didn't make the splash with the MLE, he would've needed to trade one of the big 4.

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i disagree that shaq didnt pay off. shaq was instrumental in getting us that surge out of the gates when we went something like 33-10. without him, we wouldn't have been the #1 seed for so long.

how was sheed a failure? he was nearly flawless in the playoffs when it mattered most.

In Boston, we play for championships.  There' aren't any Division Champions banners in the garden rafters.  Shaq didn't pay off because he wasn't available for the playoffs.

I can think of a lot of words to describe Sheed's 2010 playoffs, but "nearly flawless" wouldn't be two of them.  6 points and 3 rebounds per game wasn't what I had in mind when Danny gave him three years at the MLE. 

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i disagree that shaq didnt pay off. shaq was instrumental in getting us that surge out of the gates when we went something like 33-10. without him, we wouldn't have been the #1 seed for so long.

how was sheed a failure? he was nearly flawless in the playoffs when it mattered most.

In Boston, we play for championships.  There' aren't any Division Champions banners in the garden rafters.  Shaq didn't pay off because he wasn't available for the playoffs.

I can think of a lot of words to describe Sheed's 2010 playoffs, but "nearly flawless" wouldn't be two of them.  6 points and 3 rebounds per game wasn't what I had in mind when Danny gave him three years at the MLE. 

While I didn't mind Sheed, and wished he would have came back for a 2nd season, Sheed was overall a disappointment.

His 2 biggest contributions to the C's were his adding the "ball don't lie" term to C's fans' vocabulary, and the "And 1" term (wich has since become +1) becoming popular on this blog.

Neither of which I'm really convinced were positive contributions.

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I think the hardest calls were letting players walk.  Posey, TA, and then trading Perk.  I don't think those moves were the easy ones, but a decision had to be made, and Posey and TA were big moves.  Perhaps with posey, we go a little deeper in 09.

It would've been nice to have a player for longer with the MLE those years he tried to resuscitate Sheed and JO's corpses.  He probably could have given Kwame half of it one year for the long term and we'd have been solidified at backup C for all of these years.

Pretty much all he had to do was make decisions with the MLE for those years, and that's what he did.  I can't say much worked out, since the core was title worthy.  Sheed and JO were mistakes.  Even though he drove me nuts, letting TA go was a mistake.

Before that, other than KG, trading Walker for Lafrenz et. al., putting us in cap hell for years.

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Uhhhh... Getting Kg and Ray?!

Lol jk. I am assuming that was assumed.

I think the negotiations with Rondo for the cap friendly deal he got was a big gamble. At the time people weren't sure of he had overpaid or not. Some thought he was overreacting to Rondo's fabulous Bulls series.

But it turned out to be genius for him getting a deal done when he did. Had he waited for Rondo to become a restricted free agent then he likely pays Rondo a Max Deal.


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Nothing to write home about his post-draft moves after the KG trade.

I always go back to the summer of 2008. Did Danny just sit on his hands all summer? Took a project overseas big (Erden) with the last pick in the draft, then didn't use the MLE.

It doesn't matter because of the KG injury, and I don't remember who was available in free agency, but maybe if he signed a big with the MLE, maybe KG's knee injury doesn't happen, or isn't season-ending.

I know people were high on that team pre-injury (44-11 - best record in league), myself included. But the Cavs and Lakers were much better than they were the season before as well. I know the Cavs flamed out, and we almost beat the Lakers in 2010 with an inferior squad, but still, the MLE would have increased the likelihood of repeating significantly, IMO.

It's obvious Wyc is willing to spend, so I doubt it was a financial move, especially coming off a championship. And again, I don't know who was out there that could've fit well with us, but I'm fairly certain someone would have helped more than Patrick O'Bryant and Mikki Moore.
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before the Magical Summer of '07 when we got KG & Ray Ray plus some very valuable role players, Danny was Mr. Trade-O-Matic with one panic trade after another.


After the summer of '07, Danny should have given Posey the extra year, given TA the extra money and should never have traded Perk. plus the MLE money being given to all those carcasses turned out bad.

other than that, Danny has made some nice draft pickups - Rondo, Baby, Perk.

One magical summer + three good late draft picks and the rest has been very bad - add in the way he alienates his players and damages team chemistry - i give him an A/F grade. if he is a smarter GM, this group would already have their 2nd banner.
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