Why can't we send a message to Allen in the Globe and Miami Hearld?I

[Crushmaster]

It seems like there are far more people who very much disapprove of Allen's actions, feel betrayed by him and consequently don't think well of him.

The reasons are numerous and have been articulated very well by many on this board.

Since Allen did his damage-control, self serving disingenuous "ad" for himself (NOT for the Boston fans, that's for sure), why can't we, i.e. those fans who feel aggrieved, respond in kind with an "ad" expressing our displeasure with what many of us construe as his treacherous, traitorous actions.

I'll contribute to any fund that will further this.

(Allen, thru either Donny Marsahll or puppet Tanguay,said that Allen thought that the "goodwill" that Allen had built up in New England both at UConn and with the Cs would win the day over any ill-feelings that were going to be generated. Sounds like Allen knew he was doing the dishonorable thing from the beginning! I think that he also miscalculated, which often happens when decisions are made in anger.)

Let's send him a message that the goodwill is  gone!

I'm sure it will really destroy him to know there is a subset of vindictive and childish clowns who can't get over his choice and his right to decide on his employer. Let's take out an ad trashing Ray and we will see how the the rest of the NBA interpret it and how it reflects on Boston as a free agent destination. When a respected professional like Ray Allen, an NBA champ, a guy active in the community, a Hall of Famer, a pro's pro, takes the time and expense to thank the city he's leaving and this is how we respond, by publicizing for all to see the level of hysterical idiocy that has greeted his free agent signing with Miami, I wonder what everyone will think? Great idea!  

If this isn't a cause for either a ban or warning I don't know what is...

But, ImShakhesShaq - let's be real, here.

Over the last week or so, I have NEVER seen some of the comments on this Blog that I have witnessed - and I have monitored this Blog since 2006..joined it in Oct09.

All because Ray Allen made a decision to leave BOS for MIA.

With THAT being said, if I was to hit the "report to Mod" button on EVERYTHING that offended me, I'd be a busy man - especially over the last week or so.

Personally, i think the Mods have done EXTREMELY WELL in keeping BOTH sides of this thing open, to be honest.

Crushmaster, while brutally honest, I think deserves to speak his/her mind.

Thank you, Greenfaith.I am honestly stunned at this point by the reaction and the ill will towards Ray. The thing that's probably bothered me the most about this, is that i feel like I haven't been able to process my own feelings of disappointment about Ray leaving because i'm so taken aback by the reactions of so many of my fellow fans.  

And that is similar to my frame of thought, too.

I'll take it even further -

My oldest son plays football and basketball. I'm thinking that he will probably have a professional future.

He reads this blog - daily.

I've asked HIM about how he feels about Ray Allen leaving, and he won't even talk to me about it, much. But the look in HIS eyes tells me that he's been taken aback by what he's read - here.

While this blog is an OUTSTANDING one, IMO, and there are a lot of intelligent people here, on BOTH SIDES of this thing - we ALL MUST REALIZE how we Protray ourselves to the world.

Don't think for a minute that SOME of these "coveted" stars we've been seeking in Celtic Green don't read this stuff, too.

It is a shame to think how some of this stuff must appear to a younger person, someone who is probably struggling with their own reaction and looking to others for the correct manner in which to greet disappointment. Obviously, we've failed on that front, by and large. Best of luck to your son's athletic endeavors.  

I will leave you with one observation and one prediction. First, the observation, we have to remember that this board is a small sampling of Celtics fans. Perhaps the most dedicated, perhaps the most zealous, and those qualities can bring out the best and the worst. The prediction: Ray will be greeted very warmly upon his return, because Celtics fans are by and large classy, appreciative and knowledgeable. Then, once the ball goes up, he'll be another competitor, no longer a beloved Celtic, but a respected foe.  

[Roy H.]

Come on, folks.  Get back on topic, please.  If you'd like to discuss the rules or the application of them, then please do it in the Comments and Remarks forum.

And yes, for the record, calling others "clowns" is frowned upon, even when referring to a segment of the fan base rather than an individual poster.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Come on, folks.  Get back on topic, please.  If you'd like to discuss the rules or the application of them, then please do it in the Comments and Remarks forum.

And yes, for the record, calling others "clowns" is frowned upon, even when referring to a segment of the fan base rather than an individual poster.

I agree, I'm moving on. Thanks.

[GreenFaith1819]

ImShakHeisShaq, Crushmaster - well-said by both of you.

I agree.

For Crushmaster - I, like you, have not really processed the fact that Ray Allen left, too.

For me, him leaving is still quite a shock.

I remember way back in 86. BOS had just defeated HOU in 6 games, and we had the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, thanks to Red's shrewd maneuvering.

Needless to say, we all know what happened afterwards.

Seeing Red's "inaction" towards trying to either trade one of the Big Three or pull off some other move to help offset Bias' loss was very telling to me - even moreso now with Ray Allen leaving.

To me, Red had just become either too fond of Larry, Chief and McHale to trade any of them, or he was just too deflated with what happened to Bias - and the ramifications it would have on BOS then and in the future.

Fast-forward to NOW.

We have one of "Family" leave - for the enemy. He left of his own accord, but driven, of course, by underlying reasons.

We all won't, no matter what we read in the media, know the truth.

But let me go on record as saying that Ray Allen leaving is still a shock. I'm sure it is a shock to many of us, here. Some have said - "You can leave, Ray - but don't go to MIA."

He went to MIA.

We lost one of our family. One of our Three. He's gone to the enemy.

I can certainly understand the angst - even if I don't agree with it.

I apologize to csfan60 for deflecting the thread a bit.

[Celtics18]

I have ill will towards Ray Allen.  There's no doubt about that.  I want him to lose and fail every time he steps on the basketball court wearing that uniform.  

I'm not really interested in further re-hashing of the motivations, the slights, the sub-plots, what's honorable and what isn't.  The bottom line is that he is a Miami Heat.  For that, just like for all the other members of the Heat, he is an enemy and a foe to me.

I appreciate what he did here in Boston, though, and wish he and his family well in all non-NBA basketball related aspects of their lives.

[Eja117]

It seems like there are far more people who very much disapprove of Allen's actions, feel betrayed by him and consequently don't think well of him.

The reasons are numerous and have been articulated very well by many on this board.

Since Allen did his damage-control, self serving disingenuous "ad" for himself (NOT for the Boston fans, that's for sure), why can't we, i.e. those fans who feel aggrieved, respond in kind with an "ad" expressing our displeasure with what many of us construe as his treacherous, traitorous actions.

I'll contribute to any fund that will further this.

(Allen, thru either Donny Marsahll or puppet Tanguay,said that Allen thought that the "goodwill" that Allen had built up in New England both at UConn and with the Cs would win the day over any ill-feelings that were going to be generated. Sounds like Allen knew he was doing the dishonorable thing from the beginning! I think that he also miscalculated, which often happens when decisions are made in anger.)

Let's send him a message that the goodwill is  gone!

You can go to his official facebook page where the ad is posted and answer him there.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Man I hated what Ray did. For me that was deep (not him leaving to Miami, it's him leaving to Miami and whining and complaining about the managent and teammates and acting like the Celtics didn't do their part to keep him). But c'mon now, let's not go that far.

How about this. If you're upset and your Frieda are as well and you're going to the Miami game, boo him.
What happened to booing, the ultimate form of unwelcome? Isnt that a cheaper way to express emotions after this betrayal?

Just boo the man, and cheer for the C's to beat his team, that is the best payback I can possibly think of.

[guava_wrench]

Good way to move Boston to the top of the list of classless sports cities.

[guava_wrench]

ImShakHeisShaq, Crushmaster - well-said by both of you.

I agree.

For Crushmaster - I, like you, have not really processed the fact that Ray Allen left, too.

For me, him leaving is still quite a shock.

I remember way back in 86. BOS had just defeated HOU in 6 games, and we had the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, thanks to Red's shrewd maneuvering.

Needless to say, we all know what happened afterwards.

Seeing Red's "inaction" towards trying to either trade one of the Big Three or pull off some other move to help offset Bias' loss was very telling to me - even moreso now with Ray Allen leaving.

To me, Red had just become either too fond of Larry, Chief and McHale to trade any of them, or he was just too deflated with what happened to Bias - and the ramifications it would have on BOS then and in the future.

Fast-forward to NOW.

We have one of "Family" leave - for the enemy. He left of his own accord, but driven, of course, by underlying reasons.

We all won't, no matter what we read in the media, know the truth.

But let me go on record as saying that Ray Allen leaving is still a shock. I'm sure it is a shock to many of us, here. Some have said - "You can leave, Ray - but don't go to MIA."

He went to MIA.

We lost one of our family. One of our Three. He's gone to the enemy.

I can certainly understand the angst - even if I don't agree with it.

I apologize to csfan60 for deflecting the thread a bit.

How could Ray leaving be a shock when we all know he was almost traded for OJ Mayo and there have been constant trade talks. His remaining so long should have been the shock.

[GreenFaith1819]

ImShakHeisShaq, Crushmaster - well-said by both of you.

I agree.

For Crushmaster - I, like you, have not really processed the fact that Ray Allen left, too.

For me, him leaving is still quite a shock.

I remember way back in 86. BOS had just defeated HOU in 6 games, and we had the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, thanks to Red's shrewd maneuvering.

Needless to say, we all know what happened afterwards.

Seeing Red's "inaction" towards trying to either trade one of the Big Three or pull off some other move to help offset Bias' loss was very telling to me - even moreso now with Ray Allen leaving.

To me, Red had just become either too fond of Larry, Chief and McHale to trade any of them, or he was just too deflated with what happened to Bias - and the ramifications it would have on BOS then and in the future.

Fast-forward to NOW.

We have one of "Family" leave - for the enemy. He left of his own accord, but driven, of course, by underlying reasons.

We all won't, no matter what we read in the media, know the truth.

But let me go on record as saying that Ray Allen leaving is still a shock. I'm sure it is a shock to many of us, here. Some have said - "You can leave, Ray - but don't go to MIA."

He went to MIA.

We lost one of our family. One of our Three. He's gone to the enemy.

I can certainly understand the angst - even if I don't agree with it.

I apologize to csfan60 for deflecting the thread a bit.

How could Ray leaving be a shock when we all know he was almost traded for OJ Mayo and there have been constant trade talks. His remaining so long should have been the shock.

Judging by some of the comments - BOTH WAYS - here on th blog since Ray left, you wouldn't call what he did a shock?

Him leaving, especially for MIA, has elicited quite the reaction here - hence the shock.