I don't want Courtney Lee

[cman88]

theres no good centers out there that we can get guys...

im expecting us to go with a rotation of Garnett, wilcox, stiemsma(if hes back), sullinger, playing the 5..

I hope we can pull this off and get Lee...

[indeedproceed]

Split it between Kenyon Martin and Stiemsma

Yeah, because we have 200 minutes to fill at C and no-one to take them...  

Yeah I can't imagine a situation where Kenyon Martins tough defense and experience would've helped us out last season.

Except you know, when Lebron pretty much had a timeshare in the lane, and we couldn't box out to save our lives.

[CantBeRight]

Lee has already stated he doesn't want the MLE. Why wouldnt you want him? If you watched him last year in Houston you can tell he's a good player to have on the team.

[chambers]

What is with people saying Pietrus 'struggled' against Wade?
He did an excellent job on Wade and Lebron and the other 2 guards in the East. His only problem was his shooting, which severely declined after the head injury.
If we get Courtney Lee it's great and he should be able to guard Wade, Turner etc but Pietrus would be great insurance should Avery, Terry, Lee or Pierce go down.
Pietrus is the dirty nails guy that hustles his ass off and encourages everyone else to do the same. I really hope we pick him up.

[celticslove]

What is with people saying Pietrus 'struggled' against Wade?
He did an excellent job on Wade and Lebron and the other 2 guards in the East. His only problem was his shooting, which severely declined after the head injury.
If we get Courtney Lee it's great and he should be able to guard Wade, Turner etc but Pietrus would be great insurance should Avery, Terry, Lee or Pierce go down.
Pietrus is the dirty nails guy that hustles his ass off and encourages everyone else to do the same. I really hope we pick him up.

this. his also familiar with our system and really really loves being a celtic. boy i hope we can sign MP back.

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I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.

Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.

Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

This isn't a AB vs. Lee... Lee would probably cover for the probable early season absence of AB. Lee over Pie probably b/c of HEALTH/age. Again, even if we get Lee, I would hope we get Pie too, but it looks like he may want more than we can give. Lee would probably take over as Ray (not comparing players at all). Terry isn't the Ray replacement, we wanted both he and Ray!

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I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.

Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

This isn't a AB vs. Lee... Lee would probably cover for the probable early season absence of AB. Lee over Pie probably b/c of HEALTH/age. Again, even if we get Lee, I would hope we get Pie again too but looks like he may want more than we can give. Lee would probably take over as Ray (not comparing players at all). Terry isn't the Ray replacement, we wanted both he and Ray!

Mickael just turned 30. Is 30 now considered old? Health was an issue last year. He had to postpone surgery for the playoffs. He should be back to 100%, and be ready training camp. I don't think Lee is worth the hassle. The minutes won't be there for him. Committing longterm to Lee is puzzling.

[Tai]

I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.
Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

Sorry, the stats don't suggest Pietrus is a better shooter. Lee has shot at least 40% from the field in all 4 of his seasons. Pietrus hasn't done that since 2009-2010; he hasn't shot as well from 3-pt range in the last few seasons, either. As said before, Lee has shot 40% from  the 3-pt line in 3 of his 4 seasons.

Don't get me wrong, Pietrus isn't washed up (at least not to me), but let's not say untrue statements about Lee just to make Pietrus look good. Personally, if we got both, I'd be happy.

[D Dub]

Mp me

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.

Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

This isn't a AB vs. Lee... Lee would probably cover for the probable early season absence of AB. Lee over Pie probably b/c of HEALTH/age. Again, even if we get Lee, I would hope we get Pie again too but looks like he may want more than we can give. Lee would probably take over as Ray (not comparing players at all). Terry isn't the Ray replacement, we wanted both he and Ray!

Mickael just turned 30. Is 30 now considered old? Health was an issue last year. He had to postpone surgery for the playoffs. He should be back to 100%, and be ready training camp. I don't think Lee is worth the hassle. The minutes won't be there for him. Committing longterm to Lee is puzzling.

Yea, 30 is old if you have the wear on you that Pie does! He should be back 100%? Who told you that? I don't even think it's possible to be 100% after all the injuries and surgeries. Should he be healthier than he was last season... probably, but that's speculation... he had surgery before last season and still was hobbled all season. How is committing to Lee long term puzzling? We would probably be giving him the 3yr deal that we may have to give JET (hope for the S&T)... that's when everyone else will be off the books too. AB is coming off of dbl shoulder surgery who knows how much we will need Lee (or someone else), it's not like you can count on Pie being healthy all season.

Again, I hope we re-sign/sign BOTH! I already explained why Lee doesn't take Pie's place from last season.

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I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.
Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

Sorry, the stats don't suggest Pietrus is a better shooter. Lee has shot at least 40% from the field in all 4 of his seasons. Pietrus hasn't done that since 2009-2010; he hasn't shot as well from 3-pt range in the last few seasons, either. As said before, Lee has shot 40% from  the 3-pt line in 3 of his 4 seasons.

Don't get me wrong, Pietrus isn't washed up (at least not to me), but let's not say untrue statements about Lee just to make Pietrus look good. Personally, if we got both, I'd be happy.

I'm based off what is common knowledge around the NBA. Pietrus is known as a 3point specialist, and defensive stopper. Lee??

[Atzar]

Lee provides many of the same things Pietrus provides.  He's an equal defender (less aggressive than Pietrus but fewer mistakes) and a better shooter.

Having said that, I do like Pietrus on this team.  I especially like Bradley and Pietrus on the court together - that duo probably runs the full court press better than any other pair in the league, and putting Garnett into that mix is almost unfair.  I wish we'd used that combination more often last year.

I'd be fine with either one, really. 

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I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.

Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

This isn't a AB vs. Lee... Lee would probably cover for the probable early season absence of AB. Lee over Pie probably b/c of HEALTH/age. Again, even if we get Lee, I would hope we get Pie again too but looks like he may want more than we can give. Lee would probably take over as Ray (not comparing players at all). Terry isn't the Ray replacement, we wanted both he and Ray!

Mickael just turned 30. Is 30 now considered old? Health was an issue last year. He had to postpone surgery for the playoffs. He should be back to 100%, and be ready training camp. I don't think Lee is worth the hassle. The minutes won't be there for him. Committing longterm to Lee is puzzling.

Yea, 30 is old if you have the wear on you that Pie does! He should be back 100%? Who told you that? I don't even think it's possible to be 100% after all the injuries and surgeries. Should he be healthier than he was last season... probably, but that's speculation... he had surgery before last season and still was hobbled all season. How is committing to Lee long term puzzling? We would probably be giving him the 3yr deal that we may have to give JET (hope for the S&T)... that's when everyone else will be off the books too. AB is coming off of dbl shoulder surgery who knows how much we will need Lee (or someone else), it's not like you can count on Pie being healthy all season.

Again, I hope we re-sign/sign BOTH! I already explained why Lee doesn't take Pie's place from last season.

First of all, let us not get ahead of ourselves. If we believe the reports Lee has 6 to 8 suitors. S&T is impossible with all the the uncertainty in Houston right now.  Speaking of Minutes, where will Lee find them? Rondo, Avery, Terry, Green, and Pierce are all ahead of Lee in the rotation. Specially in the playoffs primary guys get all the minutes. Paying a guy $4+mil to be out of rotation is indeed idiotic. Pietrus at least can get spot-up minutes to guard guys like Lebron James or Dwyane Wade.

[Tai]

I never understood fascination with Lee. The grass isn't greener on the other side. We already have better version of Courtney Lee and his name is Avery Bradley. Another guy whom I hold in high regard Lee is Pietrus. Peaches is better than Lee. His defense alone makes him more valuable than Lee. And he's better shooter than Lee.
Get S&T Terry worked out. Give Pietrus a raise. Sign Tracy McGrady for depth.

Rondo, Terry, Bradley, Moore
Pierce, Green, Pietrus, McGrady, Joseph
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox, Johnson, Sullinger, Melo

Sorry, the stats don't suggest Pietrus is a better shooter. Lee has shot at least 40% from the field in all 4 of his seasons. Pietrus hasn't done that since 2009-2010; he hasn't shot as well from 3-pt range in the last few seasons, either. As said before, Lee has shot 40% from  the 3-pt line in 3 of his 4 seasons.

Don't get me wrong, Pietrus isn't washed up (at least not to me), but let's not say untrue statements about Lee just to make Pietrus look good. Personally, if we got both, I'd be happy.

I'm based off what is common knowledge around the NBA. Pietrus is known as a 3point specialist, and defensive stopper. Lee??

I guess it's what you define "common knowledge", now. It's already been mentioned that Lee shut down Ray in 2009 and was part of the reason we lost to the Magic in the playoffs. In his rookie year.

It's been said that trading him (and a lotta guys) off the Magic and breaking up that team that made the Finals was a bad idea.

More importantly, Lee wants to play here, provided circumstances (basically S+T for him directly or one with Terry that lets us give Lee the MLE) allow it. I'm not sure where you were going with your "grass isn't greener on the other side" analogy, but if Lee will give it his all with us, I'm sure he can make our "grass" much greener than it already is.