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Penn State to get hammered by NCAA on Monday?
« on: July 13, 2012, 08:30:39 AM »

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I don't really think the NCAA can do much to Penn State as this isn't a football issue, but the Big Ten Conference is much more than an athletic affiliation and it prides itself of academics, integrity, etc.  With the latest coming down about the lack of oversight, cover-ups, etc. from all levels of the school, should the Big Ten take a stand against that conduct and remove Penn State from the conference at least for a little while until it can right the ship, so to speak.  

EDIT:  My personal take from later on in the thread

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I know I posed the initial question, but I actually don't believe the Big Ten should kick out Penn State, but I do think the Big Ten should punish Penn State.  I believe it should ban Penn State from all Big Ten tournaments (in all sports) for one year and should withhold certain revenue from Penn State, which could then go into a fund for the victims (or child molestation victims in general).  


EDIT:  Added to the last page article regarding sanctions coming Monday.
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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 08:32:22 AM »

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anything that penalizes penn state, im for.

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »

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It is kind of pointless, would not help the kids, only punishes people who had nothing to do with the crimes don't you think?

I am for hammering the school.   I think they ought to have to educate every victim's family for free for eternity and pay cash for anguish etc.

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 10:06:35 AM »

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Agreed. The school should be hit with every civil financial liability known to mankind.

What cannot be justified, though, are the calls for the death penalty, for shutting down the Penn State program.

The kids on that team, and the current coaching staff, had absolutely nothing to do with Jerry Sandusky, or the coverup Paterno clearly orchestrated.

Punishing them out of some misguided need for retribution is wrong, and it cannot be intellectually defended.
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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 10:09:16 AM »

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Agreed. The school should be hit with every civil financial liability known to mankind.

What cannot be justified, though, are the calls for the death penalty, for shutting down the Penn State program.

The kids on that team, and the current coaching staff, had absolutely nothing to do with Jerry Sandusky, or the coverup Paterno clearly orchestrated.

Punishing them out of some misguided need for retribution is wrong, and it cannot be intellectually defended.

Why not? By that logic, no school could ever be sanctioned/severely punished as it would affect that kids. Use the Death Penalty, let all the kids transfer, and kill the program for 2 years.

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 10:09:34 AM »

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No, because in the end it'd likely weaken the Big 10 overall. What really needs to happen is that they need to lose a ton of money and the principals all need to go to jail.

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 10:14:33 AM »

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I'm with Dark Lord. They need to be made an example of and rules need to be changed. It's beyond unforgivable. What could be worse? Treason? A human slavery ring?

I would think they need to have the death penalty with reinstatement if certain conditions are met which would include things like every trustee resigning, etc

PSU isn't going to clean up its mess. They had that chance a few times now and blew it. Someone else has to do it for them.

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 10:18:01 AM »

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I'm with Dark Lord. They need to be made an example of and rules need to be changed. It's beyond unforgivable. What could be worse? Treason? A human slavery ring?

I would think they need to have the death penalty with reinstatement if certain conditions are met which would include things like every trustee resigning, etc

PSU isn't going to clean up its mess. They had that chance a few times now and blew it. Someone else has to do it for them.

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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 10:20:54 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law. 



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue. 


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it. 

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 10:23:36 AM »

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Personally I think No sports at PSU for 1 year.  No football for the next two years.  It is harsh but when you look at the first line of Penn States mission statement you realize that they have failed to uphold the basics of what the school believes in.  They need to focus on regaining those basics.

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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 10:24:39 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law. 



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue.
 


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it. 

Are you serious?  This entire coverup was conducted with the goal of preserving the football program.  This is just as much an NCAA issue as it is a Legal issue.
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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 10:24:47 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law.  



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue.  


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it.  
How on Earth are the trustees taking the fall in court? How are the janitors who didn't report and their supervisors taking the fall?

I'm not saying a culture of witch hunts has to be established as I think some would like, but the culture of looking the other way has to be totally totally demolished, and not just at PSU. PSU seems a good place to start

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 10:26:44 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law. 



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue. 


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it. 

The school gave a child rapist access to the Penn State Football program so he could continue to rape children.

I mean they may as well have bought him an ice cream truck
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Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 10:27:21 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law. 



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue. 


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it. 
How on Earth are the trustees taking the fall in court? How are the janitors who didn't report and their supervisors taking the fall?

I'm not saying a culture of witch hunts has to be established as I think some would like, but the culture of looking the other way has to be totally totally demolished, and not just at PSU.


Since when is the NCAA in charge of janitors?  


What did the trustees know?  Is the NCAA in charge of the trustees?

Re: Should the Big Ten kick Penn St. out?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 10:28:17 AM »

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No.



Those responsible for this are taking the fall already in the court of law. 



This is going after the new coaches, the players and the rest of the school that was not involved.



This is not an NCAA issue. 


This is a legal issue and the legal system is taking care of it. 

The school gave a child rapist access to the Penn State Football program so he could continue to rape children.

I mean they may as well have bought him an ice cream truck


Those who knew and did nothing are facing the legal system.