Scola Amnestied (how to get him in Green)

[Rida]

The Rockets will use their amnesty provision on Luis Scola.

Houston is pursuing a trade for Dwight Howard.

Scola is owed $21 million over the next three seasons.

The Rockets will have the cap space to absorb the contracts of Howard and several others that the Magic seek to eliminate.

From Wojo

We are all talking about the need for a back up wing, but we also need a back up Center and someone who can compete right away with Bass for PF mins.

Step forward Scola, although unathletic and not able to block shots, Scola would be a huge addition to our squad and fill some huge holes in our roster, especially if we lose Steamer.

His ability to hit jumpers from the elbow could really open up the floor for Rondo and our wings.

As hes been amnestied he could come cheap and probably sign for vets minimum as hes picking up 7 million a yr from Houston.

As he can pick any team he wants now, my big worry is that he finds himself on the Heat, which would be a terrible situation.

Sign him up Danny!

[Lopez3]

it is amazing!

[HowardAvellino]

Amnesty means the player goes through the waiver process.  Teams which are under the cap (i.e., not us) have the ability to bid on the player, starting at the vet's minimum.  If anyone bids on him, he goes to the highest bidder.

If nobody bids, he'll become a free agent, and will very likely command more than the biannual exception.  But I don't think he'll become a free agent in the first place.  Someone will likely claim him, unfortunately.

[Rida]

Hes going to go the best place he figures he can win a ring.

No "contender" is going to be under the cap except possibly Dallas, but I don't know if they can compete in the West anymore having lost Kidd and Jet, and scraping an 8th seed last year with those guys, plus Dirk plays his position and they just signed Kaman

Which contenders could he go to?

Okc are stocked with athletic bigs, Chicago have Asik ,Noah and Boozer, Miami could use him as could we. Lakers have Gasol and Bynum but Scola could be first big off the bench there.

If he wants to win a ring its between us and Miami and LA

[HowardAvellino]

Hes going to go the best place he figures he can win a ring.

You're mistaken.

No "contender" is going to be under the cap except possibly Dallas, but I don't know if they can compete in the West anymore having lost Kidd and Jet, and scraping an 8th seed last year with those guys, plus Dirk plays his position and they just signed Kaman

It doesn't matter.  It's not his choice.  He goes to the highest bidder.

[European NBA fan]

This could be good for the Celtics. Minnesota should use their eventual cap space to bid on Scola in stead of using it on Stiemsma.

[Eddie20]

Hes going to go the best place he figures he can win a ring.

You're mistaken.

No "contender" is going to be under the cap except possibly Dallas, but I don't know if they can compete in the West anymore having lost Kidd and Jet, and scraping an 8th seed last year with those guys, plus Dirk plays his position and they just signed Kaman

It doesn't matter.  It's not his choice.  He goes to the highest bidder.

That might not be entirely accurate:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/amnesty-claim-on-scola-prohibitive

[cdiraimo]

I mentioned this in another thread... its been reported by Larry coon that scola, like darko, has a partially non guaranteed player option his final year. According to coon, the amount bid on the player HAS to cover the amount owed to them when bidding on the player. So, teams under the cap who want to bid on scola would at a minimum have to pay, me makes 11 million his final year with a 1 million buyout leaving 10 million owed to him... meaning a team has toto offer up at least 10 million per season if bidding on him.  Or like mentioned teams can wait til he clears waivers and sign him as a free agent.

The darks example that coon gave was as so:
owed 5ish mil a season. His buyout on his last year is like 1.7 mil so a team under the cap has to offer at least 3.3 mil a season to bid on him. This is all because he has a non guaranteed final year with a buyout.

[StartOrien]

Which contenders could he go to?

Okc are stocked with athletic bigs, Chicago have Asik ,Noah and Boozer, Miami could use him as could we. Lakers have Gasol and Bynum but Scola could be first big off the bench there.

If he wants to win a ring its between us and Miami and LA

I'd love to see him go to Portland. Offensively, he'd be a great fit next to LMA.

[mctyson]

I mentioned this in another thread... its been reported by Larry coon that scola, like darko, has a partially non guaranteed player option his final year. According to coon, the amount bid on the player HAS to cover the amount owed to them when bidding on the player. So, teams under the cap who want to bid on scola would at a minimum have to pay, me makes 11 million his final year with a 1 million buyout leaving 10 million owed to him... meaning a team has toto offer up at least 10 million per season if bidding on him.  Or like mentioned teams can wait til he clears waivers and sign him as a free agent.

The darks example that coon gave was as so:
owed 5ish mil a season. His buyout on his last year is like 1.7 mil so a team under the cap has to offer at least 3.3 mil a season to bid on him. This is all because he has a non guaranteed final year with a buyout.

This is why he most likely will not be bid on and will become a free agent.

Also, and please correct if I am wrong, you are not allowed to sign-and-trade players who are amnestied.

So in order for him to get any sort of payday he needs to latch on to a team with some cap space.  If that is not his goal (since he will technically still be getting paid) I don't see why he wouldn't join a contender for less money.

He doesn't fit with us really well.  If there is one thing we have a lot of, it is PFs.  But Doc is a creative guy and I think there are ways to work him in.

[StartOrien]

He doesn't fit with us really well.  If there is one thing we have a lot of, it is PFs.  But Doc is a creative guy and I think there are ways to work him in.

If Luis Scola was willing to come, no doubt we'd find room for him. Brandon Bass might not enjoy that much -he'd cut into his minutes and presumably take his starting job - but unfortunately Scola is just a much better basketball player.

Would do my best to do a backflip if he came to town.

[Geo123]

Which contenders could he go to?

Okc are stocked with athletic bigs, Chicago have Asik ,Noah and Boozer, Miami could use him as could we. Lakers have Gasol and Bynum but Scola could be first big off the bench there.

If he wants to win a ring its between us and Miami and LA

I'd love to see him go to Portland. Offensively, he'd be a great fit next to LMA.

Well since LA doesn't want to play Center they wouldn't end up doing anyting like that.  It's one of the main reasons that they went after Hibbert and drafted Leonard. 

[Moranis]

I mentioned this in another thread... its been reported by Larry coon that scola, like darko, has a partially non guaranteed player option his final year. According to coon, the amount bid on the player HAS to cover the amount owed to them when bidding on the player. So, teams under the cap who want to bid on scola would at a minimum have to pay, me makes 11 million his final year with a 1 million buyout leaving 10 million owed to him... meaning a team has toto offer up at least 10 million per season if bidding on him.  Or like mentioned teams can wait til he clears waivers and sign him as a free agent.

The darks example that coon gave was as so:
owed 5ish mil a season. His buyout on his last year is like 1.7 mil so a team under the cap has to offer at least 3.3 mil a season to bid on him. This is all because he has a non guaranteed final year with a buyout.

You can't possibly be correct.  Scola's entire contract is 3 yrs, 30 million, there is no way a team would have to pay him more than that to bid on him.  

I believe the rule is they must guarantee the non-guaranteed portion and thus, must bid at least 10 million total and not 10 million in each year.  Scola at around 3.3 million a year will probably get quite a few bids.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I mentioned this in another thread... its been reported by Larry coon that scola, like darko, has a partially non guaranteed player option his final year. According to coon, the amount bid on the player HAS to cover the amount owed to them when bidding on the player. So, teams under the cap who want to bid on scola would at a minimum have to pay, me makes 11 million his final year with a 1 million buyout leaving 10 million owed to him... meaning a team has toto offer up at least 10 million per season if bidding on him.  Or like mentioned teams can wait til he clears waivers and sign him as a free agent.

The darks example that coon gave was as so:
owed 5ish mil a season. His buyout on his last year is like 1.7 mil so a team under the cap has to offer at least 3.3 mil a season to bid on him. This is all because he has a non guaranteed final year with a buyout.

I don't think it works quite like that. Yes, 10 million is the bid, but in reality is that amount spread for the remainder of the contract, not 10 million per year. So 10 million in 3 years.

That said, teams that are under the cap for the amount of 3.33 million can bid on Scola.

For our interest, that's the per year amount they will be paying Scola which will total 10 million by the end of the third year.

At least that's my understanding in all of this.

[kozlodoev]

If Luis Scola was willing to come, no doubt we'd find room for him. Brandon Bass might not enjoy that much -he'd cut into his minutes and presumably take his starting job - but unfortunately Scola is just a much better basketball player.

"Better"? Arguably. "Much better"? No way.

Similar skill set, Bass is stronger, more athletic, and a better defender. Scola is a more polished offensive player. Not worth to sink the resources to get a miniscule upgrade such as Scola.