Jeff Green - what were our other options?

[Mr October]

I think the Marvin Williams comparison is pretty accurate, and that's the problem:
Marvin: CBA favored Players
Green: CBA adjusted in favor of owners
Marvin: 37 million for FIVE years
Green: 36 million for FOUR years
Marvin: Just over the full MLE at the time.
Green: Almost double (about 175%) of the full MLE at the time
Marvin: No missed seasons
Green: Missed season due to heart surgery.

I agree with your point. I think Green should have been paid 7 mil per year. Not 8.5 or 9. The Celtics are taking a risk here in over paying Green.

Falk kinda had them by the balls. If the Celtics are to beat Miami, they need more than what they had before signing Green. With Green in the fold, the Celtics top 8 is better than their top 8 that played in game 7 last spring. If the C's needed to spend an extra 1.5 million per year to get that much closer to a title, I'm OK with that.

[Fan from VT]

I think the Marvin Williams comparison is pretty accurate, and that's the problem:
Marvin: CBA favored Players
Green: CBA adjusted in favor of owners
Marvin: 37 million for FIVE years
Green: 36 million for FOUR years
Marvin: Just over the full MLE at the time.
Green: Almost double (about 175%) of the full MLE at the time
Marvin: No missed seasons
Green: Missed season due to heart surgery.

I agree with your point. I think Green should have been paid 7 mil per year. Not 8.5 or 9. The Celtics are taking a risk here in over paying Green.

Falk kinda had them by the balls. If the Celtics are to beat Miami, they need more than what they had before signing Green. With Green in the fold, the Celtics top 8 is better than their top 8 that played in game 7 last spring. If the C's needed to spend an extra 1.5 million per year to get that much closer to a title, I'm OK with that.

I just don't really see Falk's leverage that ya'll are talking about.

"Hey, you guys really need an SF...for the bench...who didn't play all last year for medical reasons...so 9 million a year for 4 years or...um...Jeff will...um...take the MLE and sign for 5 million a year for...odds are, a worse team..."

Yeah, I call that bluff.


Besides, the dangers to overpaying are definitely real. Yes, we won't have capspace, but:
-You can take back much more in a trade now, but we couldn't if it put us over the tax. What if we had the chance to add a better player, but we were too close to the tax to do so?
-You get only the mini MLE if over the tax. What if we add a couple vet mins that want to play for us, and we end up 1-2 million over the tax and miss out on a full MLE guy next year because Green signed for 9 instead of 7?
-Tax is progressively worse. So what if we do go over the tax, and Jeff's 2-4 extra million per year bumps us from instead of payin a 1 for 1 tax the C's have to pay a 2-3 for 1 tax? That's enough that owners may defer using the MiniMLE or somehing. It always matters, and it's never good to overpay.

[j804]

We're pretty much counting on him to have a breakout year if he does the contract isn't bad given money being thrown around to guys nowadays

[CelticsFanNC]

  I honestly believe Green will flourish playing with these guys(especially Rondo) and for this coach with a full training camp and preseason.  His speed and athleticism is exactly what this team needs and has been missing. 

  With that said I was hoping for 7-8 million per years.  Still what does that extra 1-2 million per really get you?  Not much.

[Fan from VT]

  I honestly believe Green will flourish playing with these guys(especially Rondo) and for this coach with a full training camp and preseason.  His speed and athleticism is exactly what this team needs and has been missing. 

  With that said I was hoping for 7-8 million per years.  Still what does that extra 1-2 million per really get you?  Not much.

With the new CBA 1-2 million extra and over the tax is actually 2-4 million extra...then depending on how over the tax we get (via year-to-year trades, MLEs/Mini-MLEs/Vet Mins/Trades where we take back a little more than we send/rookie extensions (Bradley)/ etc. it could be an extra 3-6 million (if we are in the pay 2 for 1 dollar over bracket) or even 4-8 (if we are in the pay 3 for every 1 over bracket) which, if we are over the tax in Green's final year of his contract, would subsequently automatically double, meaning an extra 1-2 per year now could mean making roster decisions because in Wyc's money it actually means 8-16 million extra!