Right Call? Lin to Start over Kidd

[jgod213]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-jeremy-lin-start-point-guard-jason-kidd-coach-mike-woodson-article-1.1112612?localLinksEnabled=false

Knicks coach Mike Woodson confirmed on Wednesday that Lin, who has just 25 career starts under his belt, will start ahead of Kidd, the future Hall of Fame point guard. Woodson’s announcement also confirms what everyone has known for weeks; the Knicks will match the offer sheet Lin signed with the Houston Rockets.

 Both decisions are not surprising. However, just because Lin is the starter doesn’t mean he’ll be the closer. Kidd, who turns 40 in March, can’t average 30-plus minutes a night, but his experience and leadership could make him too valuable not to play in the final minutes of close games.

I wonder what Jason Kidd's stance on this is? He must of known that this would be the case before he went to NY.

I'm still on the fence on this, i just feel like there's too many chuckers in that starting lineup if, as reported, JR Smith will be returning to the starting lineup.

I don't see why you can't start Kidd, use him to set a tempo and run that pick n' roll with Amare, and then turn it over to Lin later in the first quarter.  Or, why not let Kidd run the show early in the season and, when Lin finds his groove, make a transition at that point?

Either way this team is going to be fun to watch this year.

[Celts Fan 92]

aye bruh did u see da corpse of Jason Kidd last year? lol he shoulda retired 2 years ago he nearly 40 years old nd a shell of his former self. J Kidd in 2012 got blown past by Derek Fisher on da break he looks old as hell rofl. He should retire so startin is WAY outta da question mane

[Snakehead]

I'm still on the fence on this, i just feel like there's too many chuckers in that starting lineup if, as reported, JR Smith will be returning to the starting lineup.

I don't see why you can't start Kidd, use him to set a tempo and run that pick n' roll with Amare, and then turn it over to Lin later in the first quarter.  Or, why not let Kidd run the show early in the season and, when Lin finds his groove, make a transition at that point?

I totally agree with this.  Lin comes in when you sub out some of the offense.

I'm not a big fan of Lin, I think he's overrated.  I wouldn't have even signed him personally.

[Who]

Wrong decision

(1) Lin ball dominant vs Kidd low usage
(2) Kidd is an excellent decision maker and floor leader who can organize the Knicks offense (as well as someone in his position can). Lin can't come close to matching him in this department.

Melo + Amare need a Kidd type leader and floor general to give them and the team better balance.

[jgod213]

Kinda makes you wonder where some of these personnel decisions are coming from...

[Fafnir]

Wrong decision

(1) Lin ball dominant vs Kidd low usage
(2) Kidd is an excellent decision maker and floor leader who can organize the Knicks offense (as well as someone in his position can). Lin can't come close to matching him in this department.

Melo + Amare need a Kidd type leader and floor general to give them and the team better balance.

Yeah NY has the high potential to be a train wreck next year.

[Change]

Player one 14.6ppg 06.2apg
Player two 06.2ppg 05.5apg


Guess which one is the 39 years old Jason Kidd stats.

[Fafnir]

Kinda makes you wonder where some of these personnel decisions are coming from...

Woodson was blantly campaigning for the job with Carmelo last year.

While it wouldn't put it past Dolan to demand that Lin start, I also think Woodson is the type of coach who'd premptively move the way "he should" for the owner and tabloids.

[clover]

Lin's probably the better choice in his own right, but this is also smoother than starting Kidd then having to bench him.

And contrary to what Ray Allen would like us to believe, there's nothing wrong with a less-than-his-former-self future Hall of Famer backing up a currently better player.

[StartOrien]

For basketball reasons only I'd start Kidd. He's the better fit with the starting lineup, and the bench would really benefit from Lin's ability to score.

[chambers]

Lins penetration allows for much better pick and rolls with Amare. Lins a better scorer and combining this with his ability to get Amare involved means he's far more valuable.
Kidd coming off the bench is fine, but he won't be closing games.
Lins aggression going to the basket is going to open up Melo and the other 3 point bombers for plenty of late game action. Should be very fun to watch and I don't think Melo is going to dominate the ball as much as people think- I do understand why they'd expect his fat butt to do so though.

[Fafnir]

Lins penetration allows for much better pick and rolls with Amare. Lins a better scorer and combining this with his ability to get Amare involved means he's far more valuable.
Kidd coming off the bench is fine, but he won't be closing games.
Lins aggression going to the basket is going to open up Melo and the other 3 point bombers for plenty of late game action. Should be very fun to watch and I don't think Melo is going to dominate the ball as much as people think- I do understand why they'd expect his fat butt to do so though.

I don't think Lin's P&Rs will work all that well with Chandler and Amar'e both on the floor. Spacing will be awful tough.

[Who]

Kidd coming off the bench is fine, but he won't be closing games.

Kidd should finish games for NY alongside Lin and Melo on the perimeter.

Tyson at center. Then either Amare, Novak or JR Smith / Shumpert (if they want to go smaller) as the final piece of the unit.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wrong decision

(1) Lin ball dominant vs Kidd low usage
(2) Kidd is an excellent decision maker and floor leader who can organize the Knicks offense (as well as someone in his position can). Lin can't come close to matching him in this department.

Melo + Amare need a Kidd type leader and floor general to give them and the team better balance.

Agree. Over the past two years, the Knicks looked at their best really when they had Billups leading the pack.

They've been a mess since.

[chambers]

Lins penetration allows for much better pick and rolls with Amare. Lins a better scorer and combining this with his ability to get Amare involved means he's far more valuable.
Kidd coming off the bench is fine, but he won't be closing games.
Lins aggression going to the basket is going to open up Melo and the other 3 point bombers for plenty of late game action. Should be very fun to watch and I don't think Melo is going to dominate the ball as much as people think- I do understand why they'd expect his fat butt to do so though.

I don't think Lin's P&Rs will work all that well with Chandler and Amar'e both on the floor. Spacing will be awful tough.

Dallas were fine with Kidd running the pick and roll with Dirk and Chandler, so I think that Lin should be fine with Amare/Chandler. (as Nash was amazing with Frye/Amare in Phoenix). Lin's bball IQ is obviously 90% of the reason he's successful, and I think with a full training camp and 20-30 games under their belt they should be quite dominant with this. Once they get it down, it's just extremely hard to defend regardless of spacing. If it breaks down with guys like Novak and Smith on the outside they'll get plenty of breakdown bail out threes (forcing spacing). It's just my opinion, I could be completely wrong- I just feel they need Amare taking more 55-65% shots around the rim rather than Melo taking more 35-45% shots from 10 feet and further. I really noticed this when Melo was injured and they had to go to Amare inside more.
Should be very fun to watch them run stuff outside of Meloworld.