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Isn't Moore a SG?
« on: July 11, 2012, 09:00:26 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense? 

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead? 

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment

Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 09:01:44 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense? 

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead? 

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 09:11:28 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense? 

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead? 

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 09:12:38 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 09:16:16 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

This is true.. but he has a 6'9" wingspan.. Doesnt this make up for his lack of ideal height and athleticism? Allowing him to play "bigger" than he actually is?

Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 09:36:28 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

This is true.. but he has a 6'9" wingspan.. Doesnt this make up for his lack of ideal height and athleticism? Allowing him to play "bigger" than he actually is?

I think that helps but to me it's mostly his lack of speed and quickness. That will hurt him at both positions but SG's are there to score so it hurts more there.

My problem with E'Twaun is that he really doesn't have a position. There's negatives at both positions on both sides of the ball. He has skills that teams like so I could see him sticking around but I don't see him ever being a rotation player. I actually like him but his game doesn't translate well to the pro's. He has a great feel for the game but I don't think that's enough. I hope he proves me wrong.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 09:53:58 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

Using similar logic he's too slow to guard Derrek Rose and other quick PG's in a sense, in fact pretty much all PG's in the NBA are quicker than Moore-but I see what you're saying- his length and size as a PG give him the best shot at being successful in the NBA.
It's funny because he looks quite out of control in summer league, but in his NBA minutes he's looked fairly organised and controlled for a rookie.
I think they're trying to turn him into a combo guard like Delonte, with more size than speed. Put him on smaller or slower shooting guards, and let his size be his strength against smaller point guards.
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Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 09:57:46 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

Using similar logic he's too slow to guard Derrek Rose and other quick PG's in a sense, in fact pretty much all PG's in the NBA are quicker than Moore-but I see what you're saying- his length and size as a PG give him the best shot at being successful in the NBA.
It's funny because he looks quite out of control in summer league, but in his NBA minutes he's looked fairly organised and controlled for a rookie.

Yeah I think he's just trying too hard to look good to make his contract guaranteed. I get it but he's better when he plays within himself.

Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 09:59:31 AM »

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Agree with OP.

Moore should stick to shooting guard duties. I think he's clearly a career backup and a backup doesn't need "ideal size" (although I think he's big enough). If Moore is our 4th guard in the rotation, after Rondo, mystery starting SG, and Jet, I'll be happy.

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 10:04:43 AM »

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Agree with OP.

Moore should stick to shooting guard duties. I think he's clearly a career backup and a backup doesn't need "ideal size" (although I think he's big enough). If Moore is our 4th guard in the rotation, after Rondo, mystery starting SG, and Jet, I'll be happy.
Moore would be a project we don't have roster space for as a SG, if he had made some progress as a point maybe he could stick....

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 10:06:20 AM »

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Agree with OP.

Moore should stick to shooting guard duties. I think he's clearly a career backup and a backup doesn't need "ideal size" (although I think he's big enough). If Moore is our 4th guard in the rotation, after Rondo, mystery starting SG, and Jet, I'll be happy.
Moore would be a project we don't have roster space for as a SG, if he had made some progress as a point maybe he could stick....

I agree personally but I've never seen him throw a pass to anyone that gets them an easy basket.  Sullinger is a better passer in Summer League.

I'd rather bring on Kris Joseph.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 10:07:33 AM »

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I'd rather bring on Kris Joseph.
Me too.

Re: Isn't Moore a SG?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 10:10:17 AM »

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I'd rather bring on Kris Joseph.
Me too.

I would take Kris Joseph too actually.. But honestly.. I think trying to make Moore a PG has really hurt this dudes confidence.  Its kinda like trying to change a small orange into a tangerine.. I mean, it looks like it could work.. But sometimes you just gotta let the orange be an orange, you know?

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 10:43:02 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense? 

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead? 

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment

Because there are no point guards on that summer league roster.  If E'Twaun makes it, it will be as a combo guard.  It makes perfect sense to put the ball in his hands in summer league and let him work on his PG skills.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 10:43:22 AM »

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Umm... Isn't Moore's primary position SG?  Why are we trying to make him a PG?  Doesn't he shoot really really well? And suck at running an offense?  

How bout this crazy idea.. since we lost Ray Ray.. and since Moore is a SG.. Why don't we just stop trying to force him to play PG?  We picked up Terry didn't we?  Isn't he a PG/SG who can bring the ball up? And also, shouldn't we be developing these skills in Avery Bradley instead?  

Just some crazy wild thoughts and questions.. Feel free to comment
Because he's not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA.

He's 6'4 191.. He has really long arms.. He can defend the SG position.. How is he not physically gifted enough to be a SG in the NBA?  He's obviously not fit to play PG.. I understand he isn't as athletic as Avery Bradley.. by a long shot.. But he has good enough size to be a SG..
6' 4" is small for a shooting guard who isn't a plus athlete in the NBA. Given his athletic deficiences adding to that a size disadvantage is disasterous to his ability to be a NBA player. As a PG he'd have better size relative to his opposition, making it easier for him to overcome his lacking athletic ability.

As one of possible back up PGs (Jet would be the other one I guess), I like Moore a lot. Fisher, Ron Harper and even Dumars had time playing PGs in championship squads but were just simply decent in dealing with the role. None of them were really excellent ball handlers and passers. They were very good shooters and had the confidence attacking the paint both of which I believe Moore could do.