DA taking too long on the Lee trade ; cause for concern ?

[Roy H.]

I'm definitely not holding my breath about getting Courtney Lee. He's not taking the LLE and we don't have much to offer in a trade. It doesn't seem like an easy deal to swing, so while there is mutual interest between the player and the Celtics, it doesn't mean there's mutual interest between the Rockets and the Celtics.

It would pretty much be a no lose situation for the Rockets.

Dooling ($2.5m) + Williams + Moore + $3 million + #2 for Lee

In that deal, the Rockets cut the non-guaranteed Williams and Moore, keep or cut Dooling, and have $500k extra plus a #2 for their trouble.

Why wouldn't the Rockets do that?

[hpantazo]

Idk but im gonna be extremely disappointed if we don't get him. I'm dying to see a bench of terry green LEE sullinger and hopefully MP. We will beat miami with that bench.

The one major factor that is missing from that bench is a legit backup center for KG.

Wilcox

Wilcox is ok, be he wouldn't be able to hold the fort down on defense when KG is out.

[AB_Celtic]

I'm definitely not holding my breath about getting Courtney Lee. He's not taking the LLE and we don't have much to offer in a trade. It doesn't seem like an easy deal to swing, so while there is mutual interest between the player and the Celtics, it doesn't mean there's mutual interest between the Rockets and the Celtics.

It would pretty much be a no lose situation for the Rockets.

Dooling ($2.5m) + Williams + Moore + $3 million + #2 for Lee

In that deal, the Rockets cut the non-guaranteed Williams and Moore, keep or cut Dooling, and have $500k extra plus a #2 for their trouble.

Why wouldn't the Rockets do that?

One of those rare situations where it's an obvious win-win for both teams. Should happen.

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

[Roy H.]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

[AB_Celtic]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

Would this be like Perkins round 2 though? In terms of Rondo's best buddy on the team?

[hpantazo]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

Would this be like Perkins round 2 though? In terms of Rondo's best buddy on the team?

I think Ray being gone would make up for that in Rondo's mind

[erisred]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

It's got to be completed, though, before Williams and Moore's contracts get picked up...about the end of Summer League. So, if it's going to happen it'll have to be in the next week or two.

[Fafnir]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

It's got to be completed, though, before Williams and Moore's contracts get picked up...about the end of Summer League. So, if it's going to happen it'll have to be in the next week or two.

Yeah, but that's a long time especially when actual signings are allowed to happen.

We'll see what goes on, but I'm hopeful.

[Swoopz]

EDIT: Just need Dooling to cooperate. I think he realizes he won't get much time behind Rondo and Terry, though.

Dooling would cooperate.  No other team is likely to offer him more than the minimum, and he'd be walking into a PG situation in Houston that is wide open.

Would this be like Perkins round 2 though? In terms of Rondo's best buddy on the team?

What, Rondo continues to play well then injuries limit him for the rest of the season?

[TripleOT]

I expect Lee to be in the Celtics' fold by the weekend. They're probably just horsetrading with Morey over the pick that's going over with the Purdonts and Williams.  Ainge wants to send a 2 and Morey rightfully wants a 1.  

[Chris]

I think Lee has a tough decision on his hands.  I am sure teams like Phoenix are offering more money.  But they clearly aren't offering what he thinks he is worth, or he would have already signed.  The C's, on the other hand, can't offer that much money, but they can offer a rotation spot (and perhaps even starting spot) on a high profile team, with a PG who can get him the ball exactly where he likes it.

So, he has to decide whether he wants cash in now, or take a chance that a good year with the C's will get him the money he really thinks he deserves next summer (see Posey, James).

I don't know which way he will go, but I think this is why it is taking so long.

[hpantazo]

I expect Lee to be in the Celtics' fold by the weekend. They're probably just horsetrading with Morey over the pick that's going over with the Purdonts and Williams.  Ainge wants to send a 2 and Morey rightfully wants a 1.  

Morey has the edge here, because we desperately need a SG like Lee, and the Rockets have nothing to lose in not agreeing to a sign and trade unless they get a 1st.

[Fafnir]

I expect Lee to be in the Celtics' fold by the weekend. They're probably just horsetrading with Morey over the pick that's going over with the Purdonts and Williams.  Ainge wants to send a 2 and Morey rightfully wants a 1.  

Morey has the edge here, because we desperately need a SG like Lee, and the Rockets have nothing to lose in not agreeing to a sign and trade unless they get a 1st.

Not really, if Lee has a similar money offer from a team with cap space or the MLE and Morey scares off the C's then he gets nothing.

[Cman]

I think Lee has a tough decision on his hands.  I am sure teams like Phoenix are offering more money.  But they clearly aren't offering what he thinks he is worth, or he would have already signed.  The C's, on the other hand, can't offer that much money, but they can offer a rotation spot (and perhaps even starting spot) on a high profile team, with a PG who can get him the ball exactly where he likes it.

So, he has to decide whether he wants cash in now, or take a chance that a good year with the C's will get him the money he really thinks he deserves next summer (see Posey, James).

I don't know which way he will go, but I think this is why it is taking so long.

I would guess Lee has the starting spot until AB is fully rehabbed and can work his way back into the rotation.

[TripleOT]

I think Lee has a tough decision on his hands.  I am sure teams like Phoenix are offering more money.  But they clearly aren't offering what he thinks he is worth, or he would have already signed.  The C's, on the other hand, can't offer that much money, but they can offer a rotation spot (and perhaps even starting spot) on a high profile team, with a PG who can get him the ball exactly where he likes it.

So, he has to decide whether he wants cash in now, or take a chance that a good year with the C's will get him the money he really thinks he deserves next summer (see Posey, James).

I don't know which way he will go, but I think this is why it is taking so long.

This might be what the Cs are trying to sell to Lee and his agent.  Take the $1.9m discounted salary this season, flourish here next to Rondo as a starter on a team where a fossilized Ray Allen was able to shoot 40% from three, and you'll scare up at least a 4 year MLE deal next summer, and maybe something like 4/$32 if you really flourish.

If he's being offered deals like 4/$15m from non-contenders, Lee might be convinced to take the one year deal.  If I've only made $6m in my career, I'd take the guaranteed $15m, but some people would take the chance for the biggest deal.  

If there's a MLE deal out there for Lee, Ainge is going to have to pony up to Morey.  Since the Cs decided to go for a title this year, and since a young backcourt of Rondo, AB, and Lee for around $19m is quite a bargain, I'd give the first round pick to get him.    

I expect Lee to be in the Celtics' fold by the weekend. They're probably just horsetrading with Morey over the pick that's going over with the Purdonts and Williams.  Ainge wants to send a 2 and Morey rightfully wants a 1.  

Morey has the edge here, because we desperately need a SG like Lee, and the Rockets have nothing to lose in not agreeing to a sign and trade unless they get a 1st.

Not really, if Lee has a similar money offer from a team with cap space or the MLE and Morey scares off the C's then he gets nothing.

If Morey was truly frightened about Lee walking and receiving nothing, he would have extended a QO and kept him as a RFA.  He'll let him walk if his price isn't met.  Boston has crap to offer him besides picks.  Houston has a gazillion guys at JJJ's position (if he even has one in the NBA).