Ray did a good job screwing the team over

[indeedproceed]

No.  The best decision for his family would be to take the money and stay near the doctors your son, with a dangerous disease, has.

And you're basing that on all those years you spent as a married professional basketball player who has already made millions upon millions of dollars?

Ray Allen's son's proximity to doctors isn't really a legitimate concern. Nearly any competent hospital in the united states of America can effectively treat Walker's diabetes. Its a pretty arrogant opinion to think you know what would be best for his family, or for himself.

Rays decision wasn't to go to the Clippers for a starting gig.
Rays decision wasn't to go to the Wolves for more money.

Neither of those teams are likely contenders. Not surprising.

Rays decision was "I don't like you guys so I'm going to join the enemy and show you that you should have appreciated me more".

It was just a diva move based on giving the finger to Rondo, Pierce, and the Celtics.

Again, really inserting your own, relatively uninformed (compared to, you know..Ray Allen) narrative into this. You may be right, and that pettiness might be what motivated Allen.

But is it anymore likely than Allen feeling hurt and maginalized by the Celtics, and wanting to go somewhere that they won't pull out any of the stops? maybe he just wanted to move on? Maybe he legitimately didn't like playing with Rondo, who knows?

But the point here is that its pretty out there to suggest that you, me, or anyone else knows what was 'best' for Ray Allen.

[Celtics18]

He didn't do that good a job, really, if his objective was to screw the team over. 

I mean, he could have pretended he really wanted to come back until JET signed elsewhere, and then left us high and dry for South Beach at the last minute.

You blew it, Ray, terrible job screwing us over.  You could have done so much better. 

[Celtics4ever]

So much for the "old veteran trick" eh?

[ItStaysYang]

The obvious bits and pieces are in relation to joining the enemy, the Heat.

But the secondary problems occur from the hole he leaves.  Instead of being stacked at the guard position and having the BAE to spend on a center, we're stuck with the need to find a temporary starting SG along with a massive hole at center.  If Ray had resigned here it wouldn't have cost an exception, would have put us at the right spot to sign Terry easily and we wouldn't have to overpay Green. 

We would have been in perfect shape for this season if Ray had just resigned.  We'd be stacked at 1-4, and have an exception in the backpocket to stock up at the 5.   Instead, now we need to find a SG and probably overpay him as he won't be playing a whole lot when Bradley gets back, and find a starting C or at least capable backup.

I don't know what hole you're talking about.  

There aren't going to be close to enough minutes to go around when Bradley comes back.  Allen would have gotten more minutes than he should have then he would have been "disrespected" playing the 20 or so minutes he should be playing ....And will be playing in Miami.  

Pierce will slide down to SG for 5-10mpg....Or any number of options will be there for Rivers for the temporary 15-20mpg we're talking about.  

This.

Can't wait to see what sets Doc runs in the fall. We should make a threat to try to predict his favorite. I need to watch the summer league games

[soap07]

No.  The best decision for his family would be to take the money and stay near the doctors your son, with a dangerous disease, has.

I'm glad that you are so well informed of Ray Allen's family that you can speak better to what's a better decision than Ray himself.

[D Dub]

don't sleep on Kris Joeseph, he's gonna earn minutes.

Rondo/ Terry/ Dooling
AB/ Joeseph/ Pietris

backcourt is solid.  

[Interceptor]

But is it anymore likely than Allen feeling hurt and maginalized by the Celtics, and wanting to go somewhere that they won't pull out any of the stops? maybe he just wanted to move on? Maybe he legitimately didn't like playing with Rondo, who knows?

Those are all plausible explanations... except for this, from Wyc earlier (quote shamelessly copied from celticshub since they had it):

“Ray named numbers…he would have come back if we had hit a large number that would have precluded us from getting under $74 million dollars [apron] that we would have needed to get under to add other pieces to our team, so it wasn’t a part of the program.”

Sounds to me like Judas had a price, no? It's like the old joke...

[csfansince60s]

But is it anymore likely than Allen feeling hurt and maginalized by the Celtics, and wanting to go somewhere that they won't pull out any of the stops? maybe he just wanted to move on? Maybe he legitimately didn't like playing with Rondo, who knows?

Those are all plausible explanations... except for this, from Wyc earlier (quote shamelessly copied from celticshub since they had it):

“Ray named numbers…he would have come back if we had hit a large number that would have precluded us from getting under $74 million dollars [apron] that we would have needed to get under to add other pieces to our team, so it wasn’t a part of the program.”

Sounds to me like Judas had a price, no? It's like the old joke...

He wouldn't have even taken that price.

He threw out an obscene number to ease his Iscariotic "conscience", so he could lie to himself and the world so he could say "see, they REALLY didn't want me."

[Jesus Shuttlesworth #20]

Wow I feel honored an actual Celtic is starting threads on Celticsblog. I can only assume this is an actual player due to the use of the word "WE" in every sentence of this thread starter. I'm sure Jesus's intent was to "screw the team over" yes this sounds like something one of the nicest people on earth would do. Oh you say this thread was actually started by a fan, imagine my shock and surprise that a Boston fan would trash a player that gave them everything. Class all the way on this thread, I feel so warm and fuzzy.

[eugen]

Ray was a free agent.  It's not his responsibility to fill all the team holes for the Celtics.  

If the Celtics wanted Ray in green, they should have talked extension with him last season (as he requested), rather than telling him that he was being traded to Memphis.

The Celtics decided to gamble on Ray's future.  That was their choice, and a legitimate one.  However, by letting Ray hit the open market, they knew this was a potential consequence.

Very positive statement. From Rays caotic contract situation we he to understand that GM is not doing a good job, miserable I would say. Do not forget that the same Rays situation was facing KG( he was also free agent without any contract by Cs)

[csfansince60s]

Wow I feel honored an actual Celtic is starting threads on Celticsblog. I can only assume this is an actual player due to the use of the word "WE" in every sentence of this thread starter. I'm sure Jesus's intent was to "screw the team over" yes this sounds like something one of the nicest people on earth would do. Oh you say this thread was actually started by a fan, imagine my shock and surprise that a Boston fan would trash a player that gave them everything. Class all the way on this thread, I feel so warm and fuzzy.

Allen? is that you?.....Flo?

[OsirusCeltics]

You know how I knew Ray Allen would leave?

It happened during the regular season. When Avery Bradley improved his shooting immensely and started to rain three pointers left and right. After that I thought "Oh wow, this guy could rain three pointers as well as play excellent D??"

I knew it was a matter of time before Ray would be gone. He wasn't  needed anymore

[indeedproceed]

But is it anymore likely than Allen feeling hurt and maginalized by the Celtics, and wanting to go somewhere that they won't pull out any of the stops? maybe he just wanted to move on? Maybe he legitimately didn't like playing with Rondo, who knows?

Those are all plausible explanations... except for this, from Wyc earlier (quote shamelessly copied from celticshub since they had it):

“Ray named numbers…he would have come back if we had hit a large number that would have precluded us from getting under $74 million dollars [apron] that we would have needed to get under to add other pieces to our team, so it wasn’t a part of the program.”

Sounds to me like Judas had a price, no? It's like the old joke...

Well, I'm not sure it was that outrageous to him. It's basically close to what KG got right? If the big 3 were all equally important parts of a machine, why is only ray taking the huge pay cut?

I'm not apologizing for him, but see it through his eyes.

[greenpride32]

All the hate directed at Ray is really getting ridiculous.  So basically it's okay for the C's to use and abuse Ray however they like; but Ray isn't allowed to make any of his own choices?

Let's face it the C's decided they were moving away from Ray last season.  They only came back to him because:

1 - AB will not start the season due to injury
2 - despite playing injured, Ray played respectably in the playoffs (imagine if he and Pierce were both healthy)
3 - after they got wind Ray would be interested in MIA they knew it would be a bad news letting him get there

Now the real reason everyone is upset about this whole fiasco is despite that fact you think Ray is some washed up 37 year old who can't play D and can't start in this league anymore, and who isn't as important as KG, Pierce, or Rondo, is you now realize your team has little chance of beating Ray's new team without Ray.

[csfansince60s]

But is it anymore likely than Allen feeling hurt and maginalized by the Celtics, and wanting to go somewhere that they won't pull out any of the stops? maybe he just wanted to move on? Maybe he legitimately didn't like playing with Rondo, who knows?

Those are all plausible explanations... except for this, from Wyc earlier (quote shamelessly copied from celticshub since they had it):

“Ray named numbers…he would have come back if we had hit a large number that would have precluded us from getting under $74 million dollars [apron] that we would have needed to get under to add other pieces to our team, so it wasn’t a part of the program.”

Sounds to me like Judas had a price, no? It's like the old joke...

Well, I'm not sure it was that outrageous to him. It's basically close to what KG got right? If the big 3 were all equally important parts of a machine, why is only ray taking the huge pay cut?

I'm not apologizing for him, but see it through his eyes.

See it thru KG's eyes: KG took a $10+ mill paycut. Allen was offered a $4 mil paycut.