Sign and trade for Terry and use the MLE on someone else

[nickagneta]

With Ray Allen gone, most of the high quality free agents off the market, it appears Dallas is going to have to go into full rebuild mode or full, let's save cap space for next year mode.

Why not approach Dallas for a sign and trade for Jason Terry instead of doing an MLE signing? Its a bit complicated but since Minnesota is looking to sign Greg Steimsma anyway why not do something like this.

Boston sends to Minnesota: Greg Steimsma S&T for $2 million/year, JaJuan Johnson, Sean Williams, E'twaun Moore and $1 million. Minnesota then can immediately release Moore and Williams as they are on non-guaranteed contracts and then either keep Johnson or buy him out with the million dollars.

Boston sends Dallas a first rond pick.

Minnesota sends Dallas Brad Miller and can either not pick up his option or let him retire, either way clearing the money off their books.

Dallas sends Jason Terry to Boston on a S&T 3 year $16 million contract.

That puts the Celtics with the following salary situation next year:

Rondo   11.0  million
Pierce  16.7
Garnett 10.0
Bradley  1.6
Terry    5.0
Bass     6.0
Green    9.0
Sully    1.1
Melo     1.0
Joseph   0.5

Total   61.9 million

So the Celtics are over the cap yet still have the MLE and BAE to spend with a need to fill 3-4 more roster spots.

I would definitely offer Pietrus a contract to come back at the vet min. as well as Chris Wilcox for the same. Then with the two exceptions there are always these possibilities:

MLE:

Daniel Green(partial)
Ian Mahinmi (partial)
Lou Williams
Chris Kaman
Carlos Delfino
OJ Mayo
Marcus Camby(partial)
Kirk Hinrich(partial)

BAE:
Wide open..use on anyone.

[LEHGOCELTICS]

With Ray Allen gone, most of the high quality free agents off the market, it appears Dallas is going to have to go into full rebuild mode or full, let's save cap space for next year mode.

Why not approach Dallas for a sign and trade for Jason Terry instead of doing an MLE signing? Its a bit complicated but since Minnesota is looking to sign Greg Steimsma anyway why not do something like this.

Boston sends to Minnesota: Greg Steimsma S&T for $2 million/year, JaJuan Johnson, Sean Williams, E'twaun Moore and $1 million. Minnesota then can immediately release Moore and Williams as they are on non-guaranteed contracts and then either keep Johnson or buy him out with the million dollars.

Boston sends Dallas a first rond pick.

Minnesota sends Dallas Brad Miller and can either not pick up his option or let him retire, either way clearing the money off their books.

Dallas sends Jason Terry to Boston on a S&T 3 year $16 million contract.

That puts the Celtics with the following salary situation next year:

Rondo   11.0  million
Pierce  16.7
Garnett 10.0
Bradley  1.6
Terry    5.0
Bass     6.0
Green    9.0
Sully    1.1
Melo     1.0
Joseph   0.5

Total   61.9 million

So the Celtics are over the cap yet still have the MLE and BAE to spend with a need to fill 3-4 more roster spots.

I would definitely offer Pietrus a contract to come back at the vet min. as well as Chris Wilcox for the same. Then with the two exceptions there are always these possibilities:

MLE:

Daniel Green(partial)
Ian Mahinmi (partial)
Lou Williams
Chris Kaman
Carlos Delfino
OJ Mayo
Marcus Camby(partial)
Kirk Hinrich(partial)

BAE:
Wide open..use on anyone.

Sounds awesome.

[fairweatherfan06]

Good idea, not sure we have anyone Dallas wants though.   MLE on who though?

[Roy H.]

One quick clarification, nick:  we can't offer Stiemsma more than his qualifying offer unless we use the BAE to do it, and you can't S&T somebody with the BAE.

[lightspeed5]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

[j804]

The question is would Dallas or Minny comply Ainge might have tried it already

[nickagneta]

One quick clarification, nick:  we can't offer Stiemsma more than his qualifying offer unless we use the BAE to do it, and you can't S&T somebody with the BAE.

Darn...well it was a good idea until then.

Salaries don't work out without the slight raise to Stiemsma.

[nickagneta]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

Dallas is losing Terry anyway, by doing this they get a first round pick and have nothing effect their cap.

[nickagneta]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

No we don't. They are expendable. Especially if you could pick up a Kaman or Camby with the MLE that gets freed up.

[Eddie20]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

Dallas is losing Terry anyway, by doing this they get a first round pick and have nothing effect their cap.

Plus, they can get a trade exception out of it.

[nickagneta]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

Dallas is losing Terry anyway, by doing this they get a first round pick and have nothing effect their cap.

Plus, they can get a trade exception out of it.

No the couldn't because they are receiving Miller.

[wdleehi]

Three way?



Ray to Miami

Miller and a 1st to Dallas (Miller retires)

Terry to Boston.

[Eddie20]

we need stiemsma and jjj

you dont trade a project like jjj. he has no trade value so why would you trade him? dallas wouldnt want any of our players

Dallas is losing Terry anyway, by doing this they get a first round pick and have nothing effect their cap.

Plus, they can get a trade exception out of it.

No the couldn't because they are receiving Miller.

I didn't see the part about Miller. What I'm saying is that we could send a package of Johnson, Moore, and Williams (the last 2 being non-guaranteed guys) and picks for Terry. They would obviously cut Williams, but might keep Moore, and they receive a slight trade exception from it.

[nickagneta]

Three way?



Ray to Miami

Miller and a 1st to Dallas (Miller retires)

Terry to Boston.

Thats four teams, Miller plays for Minny.

[wdleehi]

Three way?



Ray to Miami

Miller and a 1st to Dallas (Miller retires)

Terry to Boston.

Thats four teams, Miller plays for Minny.

Mike Miller